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soxthecat
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Human Like Play

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I'ld like input from others as regarding human like play.

I'm just a beginer, so I can't really tell that much, but if you have a high rating how human like do you feel the play is?

Could you tell you were playing a program if you did not know??

Thanks for input!
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Re: Human Like Play

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soxthecat wrote:I'ld like input from others as regarding human like play.

I'm just a beginer, so I can't really tell that much, but if you have a high rating how human like do you feel the play is?

Could you tell you were playing a program if you did not know??

Thanks for input!
I am a bonafide patzer myself but I think I can sort of tell....

For years Shredder was (IMO) the best engine to play against as it did not just make goofball errors and even the games I won felt like good games.

For the longest time (and I mean no disrespect) I always felt Haircs was too merciless at lower levels.

But so far (and it is only a few games) I think Hiarcs 14 is a good opponent to train against. The game play does not seem impossible to beat at lower levels nor does it seem to easy to beat.

That is the only way I can really tell.

For instance, Junior is not that good of an opponent (great analysis partner) but it just moves fast and asks for a draw at lower levels.

Shredder, and now Hiarcs have put real effort into making game play at ELO levels interesting, and as realistic as possible.
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Re: Human Like Play

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soxthecat wrote:I'ld like input from others as regarding human like play.

I'm just a beginer, so I can't really tell that much, but if you have a high rating how human like do you feel the play is?

Could you tell you were playing a program if you did not know??

Thanks for input!
My Friend

This is a game I played early today with Deep Hiarcs 14. Game was played in a 1 minute each side + 7 sec. increment for each move. Me and the engine were both Hiarcs rated 1717 when playing this game. Game finished as draw by mutual agreement. Hiarcs, every one knows him. Me, I am a 47 years old chess amateur, playing the game since 1978.

Question is: Do you know who is the man and who is the machine? If you are not sure about, this means the machine played an human like chess game.

[Event "1 7 rated"]
[Site "Portugal"]
[Date "2012.10.29"]
[Round "?"]
[White "N. N."]
[Black "N. N."]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[BlackElo "1717"]
[ECO "B00"]
[TimeControl "60+7"]
[WhiteElo "1717"]

1.e4 Nc6 2.c4 e5 3.g3 Bc5 4.Bg2 Nb4 5.d3 Qf6 6.Nf3 Ne7 7.O-O d6 8.h3 Bd7 9.Nc3 O-O 10.a3 Nbc6 11.Be3 Qg6 12.Bxc5 dxc5 13.Nd5 Qd6 14.Qe2 h6 15.Rae1 a5 16.Kh2 Nd4 17.Nxd4 cxd4 18.Nxe7+ Qxe7 19.f4 c5 20.f5 Qf6 21.h4 Kh7 22.Bh3 a4 23.Qf2 b5 24.g4 bxc4 25.dxc4 Rab8 26.Rg1 Qb6 27.Rg2 Qb3 28.g5 hxg5 29.hxg5 Qxc4 30.g6+ Kg8 31.Qh4 fxg6 32.fxg6 Rf6 33.Qh7+ Kf8 34.Qh8+ Qg8 35.Qxg8+ Kxg8 36.Bxd7 Rb7 37.Bxa4 c4 38.Be8 Kf8 39.Bf7 Rc7 40.Rc2 c3 41.bxc3 d3 42.Rd2 Rxc3 43.Re3 Rd6 44.a4 Rc2 45.Rxc2 dxc2 46.Rc3 Rd2+ 47.Kg3 Rd3+ 48.Rxd3 c1=Q 49.Rd8+ Ke7 50.Re8+ Kd7 51.Rxe5 Qc7 52.Kf4 Qd6 53.a5 Kd8 54.a6 Qxa6 55.Re8+ Kd7 56.e5 Qf1+ 57.Ke4 Qe2+ 58.Kd4 Qg4+ 59.Kd5 Qf3+ 60.Kd4 Qf4+ 61.Kd5 Qf3+ 62.Kd4 Qf2+ 63.Kd5 Qg2+ 64.Kd4 Qf2+ 65.Kd5 Qg2+ 66.Kd4 Qd2+ 67.Ke4 Qc2+ 68.Kd4 Qa4+ 69.Kd5 Qc6+ 70.Kd4 Qa4+ 71.Kd5 Qb5+ 72.Kd4 Qb4+ 73.Kd5 Qa5+ 74.Kd4 Qa1+ 75.Kd5 Qh1+ 76.Kd4 Qg1+ 77.Kd5 Qd1+ 78.Ke4 Qe1+ 79.Kd5 1/2-1/2
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Re: Human Like Play

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martinus wrote:
soxthecat wrote:I'ld like input from others as regarding human like play.

I'm just a beginer, so I can't really tell that much, but if you have a high rating how human like do you feel the play is?

Could you tell you were playing a program if you did not know??

Thanks for input!
My Friend

This is a game I played early today with Deep Hiarcs 14. Game was played in a 1 minute each side + 7 sec. increment for each move. Me and the engine were both Hiarcs rated 1717 when playing this game. Game finished as draw by mutual agreement. Hiarcs, every one knows him. Me, I am a 47 years old chess amateur, playing the game since 1978.

Question is: Do you know who is the man and who is the machine? If you are not sure about, this means the machine played an human like chess game.

[Event "1 7 rated"]
[Site "Portugal"]
[Date "2012.10.29"]
[Round "?"]
[White "N. N."]
[Black "N. N."]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[BlackElo "1717"]
[ECO "B00"]
[TimeControl "60+7"]
[WhiteElo "1717"]

1.e4 Nc6 2.c4 e5 3.g3 Bc5 4.Bg2 Nb4 5.d3 Qf6 6.Nf3 Ne7 7.O-O d6 8.h3 Bd7 9.Nc3 O-O 10.a3 Nbc6 11.Be3 Qg6 12.Bxc5 dxc5 13.Nd5 Qd6 14.Qe2 h6 15.Rae1 a5 16.Kh2 Nd4 17.Nxd4 cxd4 18.Nxe7+ Qxe7 19.f4 c5 20.f5 Qf6 21.h4 Kh7 22.Bh3 a4 23.Qf2 b5 24.g4 bxc4 25.dxc4 Rab8 26.Rg1 Qb6 27.Rg2 Qb3 28.g5 hxg5 29.hxg5 Qxc4 30.g6+ Kg8 31.Qh4 fxg6 32.fxg6 Rf6 33.Qh7+ Kf8 34.Qh8+ Qg8 35.Qxg8+ Kxg8 36.Bxd7 Rb7 37.Bxa4 c4 38.Be8 Kf8 39.Bf7 Rc7 40.Rc2 c3 41.bxc3 d3 42.Rd2 Rxc3 43.Re3 Rd6 44.a4 Rc2 45.Rxc2 dxc2 46.Rc3 Rd2+ 47.Kg3 Rd3+ 48.Rxd3 c1=Q 49.Rd8+ Ke7 50.Re8+ Kd7 51.Rxe5 Qc7 52.Kf4 Qd6 53.a5 Kd8 54.a6 Qxa6 55.Re8+ Kd7 56.e5 Qf1+ 57.Ke4 Qe2+ 58.Kd4 Qg4+ 59.Kd5 Qf3+ 60.Kd4 Qf4+ 61.Kd5 Qf3+ 62.Kd4 Qf2+ 63.Kd5 Qg2+ 64.Kd4 Qf2+ 65.Kd5 Qg2+ 66.Kd4 Qd2+ 67.Ke4 Qc2+ 68.Kd4 Qa4+ 69.Kd5 Qc6+ 70.Kd4 Qa4+ 71.Kd5 Qb5+ 72.Kd4 Qb4+ 73.Kd5 Qa5+ 74.Kd4 Qa1+ 75.Kd5 Qh1+ 76.Kd4 Qg1+ 77.Kd5 Qd1+ 78.Ke4 Qe1+ 79.Kd5 1/2-1/2
I guess that you were White and Hiarcs was black.
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