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Test game 5, RS 2200X:

Game 5
IDIGORAS - BOLBOCHAN
13...c5
14...Bc6
15...Nc6
16...Nxd5
17...Ne5
18...Bf5
19...Bxg2
20...Qb7
21...Bxb2
22...Rxb2
23...Qg4
24...Rb8
25...h6
26...Qd7
27...h6?
28...Rxb1
29...Qc3
30...a3
31...g5
32...Kg7?
33...Kf8
34...gxh4
35...Qg3?
36...Ke8
37...Qg5+
38...e6
39...fxe4
40...Qb2+

2200X vs TC 2100
(16/28 moves)

Aggregate: (73/116 moves) - 63%

This should provide a complete record of RS 2200X through Test Game 5.

- R.
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Post by spacious_mind »

Reinfeld wrote:Test game 5, RS 2200X:

Game 5
IDIGORAS - BOLBOCHAN
13...c5
14...Bc6

2200X vs TC 2100
(16/28 moves)

Aggregate: (73/116 moves) - 63%

This should provide a complete record of RS 2200X through Test Game 5.

- R.
Thanks, I am currently playing the games 1-4 with Atlanta/Magellan etc. as soon as I am complete I will update the tables.
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Here is an update for Test Game 1. There are now 22 entries.

Test Game 1 Current Standings

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1	Critter 1.6a 64 Bit - AMD Phenom 2 Core 2.8GHZ	73.8	92.25%	2768
2	Mephisto Atlanta	67.8	84.75%	2543
3	Mephisto MM6	65.6	82.00%	2460
4	Radioshack 2250XL Brute Force	65.4	81.75%	2453
5	Mikhail Botvinnik	64.7	80.88%	2426
6	Mephisto Magellan	64.5	80.63%	2419
6	Mephisto Sentator	64.5	80.63%	2419
8	Saitek Travel Champion 2100	62.7	78.38%	2351
9	Tasc CM 512K – 15 MHZ – KING 2.54	62.2	77.75%	2333
10	Radioshack 2250XL Selective	61.5	76.88%	2306
11	Mephisto TM Vancouver 68030 36 Mhz	61.0	76.25%	2288
12	Saitek Corona	60.5	75.63%	2269
13	Mephisto Nigel Short	60.3	75.38%	2261
14	Radioshack 2200X Selective	59.6	74.50%	2235
15	Mchess Pro 5 – P75	58.9	73.63%	2209
16	Novag Jade 2	57.0	71.25%	2138
17	CXG 3000	48.0	60.00%	1800
18	Palm Chess Tiger 14.9 33MHz	46.2	57.75%	1703
19	Saitek MK 12 Trainer LV 5 90S/Move	42.5	53.13%	1594
20	Fidelity Sensory 9	41.4	51.75%	1553
21	Novag Constellation JR	39.2	49.00%	1470
22	Saitek MK 12 Trainer LV 4 15S/Move	36.3	45.38%	1361
Atlanta and MM6 move past RadioShack 2250XL Brute Force and Botvinnik.

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Here is the update for Test Games 2 to 5:

Test Game 2 Current Standings

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1	Critter 1.6a 64 Bit - AMD Phenom 2 Core 2.8GHZ	75.4	94.25%	2828
2	Alexander Kotov	70.0	87.50%	2629
3	Novag Jade 2	57.6	72.00%	2160
4	Saitek Travel Champion 2100	53.0	66.25%	1988
5	Mephisto TM Vancouver 68030 36 MHz	52.3	65.38%	1961
6	Mephisto Nigel Short	51.6	64.50%	1935
7	Mephisto MM6	50.7	63.38%	1901
8	Radioshack 2250XL Selective	49.5	61.88%	1856
9	Saitek Corona	48.6	60.75%	1823
10	Radioshack 2200X Selective	48.3	60.36%	1811
11	Mchess Pro 5 – P75	46.7	58.38%	1751
12	Tasc CM 512K – 15 MHZ – KING 2.54	45.7	57.13%	1714
13	Mephisto Atlanta	44.5	55.63%	1669
14	Radioshack 2250XL Brute Force	44.0	55.00%	1650
15	Mephisto Magellan	43.4	54.25%	1628
15	Mephisto Sentator	43.4	54.25%	1628
17	CXG 3000	41.8	52.25%	1568
18	Fidelity Sensory 9	38.9	48.63%	1459
19	Novag Constellation JR	35.0	43.75%	1313
20	Saitek MK 12 Trainer LV 5 90S/Move	28.0	35.00%	1050
21	 Saitek MK 12 Trainer LV 4 15S/Move	28.0	35.00%	1050
Best Performer in Test Game 2 continues to be Novag Jade 2.

Test Game 3 Current Standings

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1	Critter 1.6a 64 Bit - AMD Phenom 2 Core 2.8GHZ	74.1	92.63%	2779
2	Tasc CM 512K – 15 MHZ – KING 2.54	71.1	88.88%	2666
3	Leonard Barden	65.3	81.63%	2449
4	MChess Pro 5 - P75	63.8	79.25%	2393
5	Mephisto TM Vancouver 68030 36 MHz	63.1	78.88%	2366
6	Radioshack 2250XL Brute Force	62.3	77.88%	2336
7	Saitek Travel Champion 2100	61.8	77.25%	2318
7	Mephisto MM6	61.8	77.25%	2318
9	Mephisto Atlanta	61.4	76.75%	2303
10	Fidelity Sensory 9	59.6	74.50%	2235
11	Radioshack 2200X Selective	59.3	74.13%	2224
12	Mephisto Magellan	59.2	74.00%	2220
12	Mephisto Sentator	59.2	74.00%	2220
14	Radioshack 2250XL Selective	58.5	73.13%	2194
15	Novag Jade 2	57.5	71.88%	2156
16	Saitek Corona	56.3	70.38%	2111
17	Saitek MK 12 Trainer LV 4 15S/Zug	48.4	60.50%	1815
18	CXG 3000	46.6	58.25%	1758
19	Saitek MK 12 Trainer LV 5 90S/Zug	44.0	55.00%	1650
20	Novag Constellation JR	40.7	50.88%	1526
Tasc CM 512K – 15 MHZ – KING 2.54 remains on top in Test Game 3.


Test Game 4 Current Standings

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1	Critter 1.6a 64 Bit - AMD Phenom 2 Core 2.8GHZ	76.2	95.25%	2858
2	Wolfgang Unzicker	69.5	86.88%	2621
3	Mephisto Atlanta	61.5	76.88%	2306
4	Tasc CM 512K – 15 MHZ – KING 2.54	61.4	76.75%	2303
5	Mephisto Sentator	61.2	76.50%	2295
6	Radioshack 2200X Selective	60.5	75.63%	2269
7	Mephisto Magellan	58.8	73.50%	2205
8	Saitek Travel Champion 2100	58.7	73.78%	2201
8	Mephisto MM6	58.7	73.78%	2201
8	Radioshack 2250XL Selective	58.7	73.78%	2201
11	Saitek Explorer Pro	57.5	71.88%	2156
12	Radioshack 2250XL Brute Force	56.6	70.63%	2119
13	Mephisto TM Vancouver 68030 36 Mhz	56.3	70.38%	2111
14	Novag Jade 2	53.1	66.38%	1991
15	Mchess Pro 5 – P75	52.9	66.13%	1984
16	Saitek MK 12 Trainer LV 5 90S/Move	52.4	65.50%	1965
17	Saitek Corona	51.6	64.50%	1935
17	CXG 3000	51.6	64.50%	1935
19	Saitek MK 12 Trainer LV 4 15S/Move	51.4	64.25%	1928
20	Radioshack 1650L	51.0	63.75%	1913
21	Fidelity Sensory 9	46.7	58.38%	1751
22	Novag Constellation JR	42.3	52.88%	1586
Mephisto Atlanta makes top dedicated computer spot in Test Game 4.

Test Game 5 Current Standings

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1	Critter 1.6a 64 Bit - AMD Phenom 2 Core 2.8GHZ	74.2	92.75%	2783
2	Julio Bolbochán   	70.4	88.00%	2640
3	Nova Jade 2	69.0	86.25%	2588
4	Mephisto Atlanta	65.4	81.75%	2453
5	Saitek Travel Champion 2100	63.2	79.00%	2370
5	Mephisto MM6	63.2	79.00%	2370
5	Mephisto TM Vancouver 68030 36 MHz	63.2	79.00%	2370
8	CXG 3000	61.8	77.25%	2318
9	Radioshack 2250XL Brute Force	61.4	76.75%	2303
10	Tasc CM 512K – 15 MHZ – KING 2.54	60.7	75.88%	2276
11	Saitek Corona	60.4	75.50%	2265
12	Radioshack 2250XL Selective	60.3	75.38%	2261
13	Mephisto Magellan	59.6	74.50%	2235
14	Mephisto Sentator	59.1	73.88%	2216
15	MChess Pro 5 - P75	56.6	70.75%	2123
16	Saitek MK 12 Trainer LV 5 90S/Move	52.6	65.75%	1973
17	Radioshack 2200X Selective	51.4	64.25%	1928
18	Novag Constellation JR	46.2	57.75%	1733
19	Fidelity Sensory 9	45.2	56.50%	1695
20	Saitek MK 12 Trainer LV 4 15S/Move	40.4	50.50%	1515
Novag Jade 2 also remains top of the dedicated in Test Game 5.

So far Top Spot Leaders are:

Mephisto Atlanta = 2 Top Spots
Novag Jade 2 = 2 Top Spots
Tasc CM 512K – 15 MHZ – KING 2.54 = 1 Top Spot


Here is the overall table after 5 Test Games:


Leaderboard after 5 Test Games

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1	Critter 1.6a 64 Bit - AMD Phenom 2 Core 2.8GHZ	373.7	93.43%	2803
2	Grandmaster Performance Standard  	339.6	84.90%	2547
3	Tasc CM 512K – 15 MHZ – KING 2.54	301.1	75.28%	2258
4	Mephisto Atlanta	300.6	75.15%	2255
5	Mephisto MM6	300.0	75.00%	2250
6	Saitek Travel Champion 2100	299.4	74.25%	2246
7	Mephisto TM Vancouver 68030 36 MHz	295.9	73.98%	2219
8	Nova Jade 2	294.2	73.55%	2207
9	Radioshack 2250XL Brute Force	289.6	72.40%	2172
10	Radioshack 2250XL Selective	288.5	72.13%	2164
11	Mephisto Sentator	287.4	71.85%	2156
12	Mephisto Magellan	285.5	71.38%	2141
13	Radioshack 2200X Selective	279.1	69.76%	2093
14	MChess Pro 5 - P75	278.9	69.73%	2092
15	Saitek Corona	277.4	69.35%	2081
16	CXG 3000	249.8	62.45%	1874
17	Fidelity Sensory 9	231.8	57.95%	1739
18	Saitek MK 12 Trainer LV 5 90S/Move	219.5	54.88%	1646
19	Saitek MK 12 Trainer LV 4 15S/Move	204.5	51.13%	1534
20	Novag Constellation JR	203.4	50.85%	1526
Tasc CM 512K – 15 MHZ – KING 2.54 remains on top with Atlanta moving into second place, 3 points behind.

The latest updated spreadsheet is available for download from an earlier post.

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While I'm continuing to use Nick's ponder-on conditions for the sake of consistency as I run sidebars to his tests, I begin to lean toward Steve's ponder-off warning. It's just easier to preserve conditions that are closer to perfect.

- R.
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Observations, no particular order:

1. Mephisto Explorer Pro (released 2007) does not provide options for selective or brute-force search. You can't turn off its book. The only way to affect it (aside from time controls) is by turning ponder off.

2. RS 2250 XL (1997) and RS 2200X (1992) both include ponder options, as well as multiple opening books and randomizing.

It hadn't occurred to me that such a wide time period separated these machines. The feature-set decisions are intriguing.

3. Wiki says the original Explorer (2005) and the 2200X are GK 2000 clones.

4. Wiki says (in two different places) that the Explorer Pro is a GK 2100 and a Cougar (1998), and (indirectly) a 2250XL.

5. Wiki says the Mephisto Chess Challenger (2004) is a Centurion (1998) and a President (1993), and a GK 2100 (1993) and a 2250XL, if you dig deeply enough. The Challenger is the least established.

6. I like the Explorer design a lot. The backlit screen is so much easier. The button configuration is pleasantly simple compared to predecessors. The side pockets present a great piece compartment and cat deterrent. I like the rate-yourself component (which shows up on the RS 2250XL as test positions.) It's too bad the extra stuff vanished (brute-v-selective and multiple). With those features included, it would be almost perfect. One could still argue for the Explorer Pro as the best tabletop buy of the 2000s.

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Reinfeld wrote:Observations, no particular order:

1. Mephisto Explorer Pro (released 2007) does not provide options for selective or brute-force search. You can't turn off its book. The only way to affect it (aside from time controls) is by turning ponder off.

2. RS 2250 XL (1997) and RS 2200X (1992) both include ponder options, as well as multiple opening books and randomizing.

It hadn't occurred to me that such a wide time period separated these machines. The feature-set decisions are intriguing.

3. Wiki says the original Explorer (2005) and the 2200X are GK 2000 clones.

4. Wiki says (in two different places) that the Explorer Pro is a GK 2100 and a Cougar (1998), and (indirectly) a 2250XL.

5. Wiki says the Mephisto Chess Challenger (2004) is a Centurion (1998) and a President (1993), and a GK 2100 (1993) and a 2250XL, if you dig deeply enough. The Challenger is the least established.

6. I like the Explorer design a lot. The backlit screen is so much easier. The button configuration is pleasantly simple compared to predecessors. The side pockets present a great piece compartment and cat deterrent. I like the rate-yourself component (which shows up on the RS 2250XL as test positions.) It's too bad the extra stuff vanished (brute-v-selective and multiple). With those features included, it would be almost perfect. One could still argue for the Explorer Pro as the best tabletop buy of the 2000s.

- R.
On the Cougar you have the A2 to H2 squares under Options. a2 changes to selective or brute force and b2 turns on or off easy mode (turns the thinking on opponents time on or off)
I guess in order to make Explorer Pro seem different to Cougar they turned the a2 to h2 features off or moved some of them to other rows. These two computers are supposed to play identically.

For clone testing Ponder off might be better, but probably not really because with many true clones playing with ponder on, beep at the same time so ponder on helps to raise your suspicions really easily.

Ponder on is a stronger setting so for match play it should always be on. Turning it off weakens the computer's strength.

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I have just completed Test Game # 6. Test Game 6 is a match between a French person named Monillaux playing against Alexey Suetin of Russia. This was played at the World Student Games in Lyons, France in 1955.

Barden has the names as Monillaux and V. Suetin. I think he messed the names up. I did some digging and Alexander Suetin (Alexey) did in fact play for Russia scoring 8 out of 10 points. There was a person named Mouillaux who played on Board 2 for France. He only scored 1/2 point in 9 games. So I am guessing the correct name is Mouillaux.

Alexey Suetin's highest rating was ELO 2701 in October 1970. In this Test game he was evaluated at ELO 2625 which I think again fits well.

Here is the Game:

Test Game # 6

Mouillaux - V. Suetin
Lyons, France 1955

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. Be2 Nf6 4. Nc3 Nc6 5. d4 cxd4 6. Nxd4 e5 7. Nb3 Be7 8.
O-O O-O 9. Be3 a5 10. a4 {Start test}

[fen]r1bq1rk1/1p2bppp/2np1n2/p3p3/P3P3/1NN1B3/1PP1BPPP/R2Q1RK1 w - a3 0 10[/fen]

[Event "Leonard Barden Test Game 6"]
[Site "Lyons, 1955"]
[Date "????.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Monillaux"]
[Black "Suetin, V."]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "B59"]
[Annotator ",Microsoft"]
[PlyCount "66"]
[EventDate "1955.??.??"]

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. Be2 Nf6 4. Nc3 Nc6 5. d4 cxd4 6. Nxd4 e5 7. Nb3 Be7 8.
O-O O-O 9. Be3 a5 10. a4 {Start test} Nb4 {3.0 = 10. /\ Nb4; 3.0 = 10. /\ Be6;
2.1 = 10. /\ h6; 1.9 = 10. /\ Bd7; 1.9 = 10. /\ Qc7; 1.7 = 10. /\ Kh8; 1.6 =
10. /\ b6; 1.5 = 10. /\ Rb8; 1.3 = 10. /\ Qd7; 1.2 = 10. /\ g6; 1.0 = 10. /\
Re8; 0.6 = 10. /\ Qe8; 0.6 = 10. /\ Na7; 0.5 = 10. /\ h5; 0.5 = 10. /\ Nb8} 11.
f4 Be6 {3.0 = 11. /\ Be6; 3.0 = 11. /\ Be6; 2.0 = 11. /\ Qc7; 2.0 = 11. /\ h5;
2.0 = 11. /\ Bd7; 1.9 = 11. /\ Re8; 1.7 = 11. /\ d5; 1.6 = 11. /\ Kh8; 1.6 =
11. /\ Qd7; 1.5 = 11. /\ Rb8; 1.5 = 11. /\ h6; 1.5 = 11. /\ exf4; 1.0 = 11. /\
b6; 0.8 = 11. /\ Qe8; 0.7 = 11. /\ g6; 0.6 = 11. /\ Na6} 12. f5 Bd7 {
3.0 = 12. /\ Bd7; 1.8 = 12. /\ Bxb3; 1.0 = 12. /\ Bc8} 13. Bf3 Bc6 {1.3 = 13. /
\ Bc6; 3.0 = 13. /\ d5; 1.7 = 13. /\ Rc8; 1.6 = 13. /\ h6; 1.3 = 13. /\ Ra6; 1.
3 = 13. /\ Re8; 1.3 = 13. /\ Qc7; 1.3 = 13. /\ Qb8; 1.3 = 13. /\ Rb8; 1.0 = 13.
/\ b6} 14. Bg5 Qc7 {1.9 = 14. /\ Qc7; 3.0 = 14. /\ h6; 2.4 = 14. /\ Re8; 1.9 =
14. /\ Rc8; 1.8 = 14. /\ Ne8; 1.8 = 14. /\ Qb6+; 1.8 = 14. /\ b6; 1.8 = 14. /\
Kh8; 1.6 = 14. /\ Qd7; 1.6 = 14. /\ Bd7; 1.5 = 14. /\ Nd7; 1.3 = 14. /\ Qb8; 1.
2 = 14. /\ Qc8; 1.2 = 14. /\ Rb8; 1.0 = 14. /\ Ra7;} 15. Bxf6 Bxf6 {
4.0 = 15. /\ Bxf6; 4.0 = 15. /\ Qb6+; 1.0 = 15. /\ gxf6} 16. Qe2 Rad8 {
2.0 = 16. /\ Rad8; 3.0 = 16. /\ Rac8; 2.8 = 16. /\ Rfd8; 2.7 = 16. /\ Bg5; 2.7
= 16. /\ Bh4; 2.7 = 16. /\ Rfc8; 2.7 = 16. /\ Bd7; 2.6 = 16. /\ Qb6+; 2.5 = 16.
/\ Rfb8; 2.5 = 16. /\ Bd8; 2.5 = 16. /\ Rfe8; 2.5 = 16. /\ Be7; 2.4 = 16. /\
Kh8; 2.4 = 16. /\ Rab8; 2.3 = 16. /\ b6; 2.3 = 16. /\ h6; 2. 2 = 16. /\ Be8; 2.
1 = 16. /\ Qd8; 2.1 = 16. /\ Rae8; 1.9 = 16. /\ h5; 1.9 = 16. /\ Qc8; 1.7 = 16.
/\ g6; 1.5 = 16. /\ Ra7; 1.0 = 16. /\Na6} 17. Rad1 Rd7 {2.5 = 17. /\ Rd7; 3.0
= 17. /\ Rc8; 2.7 = 17. /\ Rfe8; 2.7 = 17. /\ Bg5; 2.5 = 17. /\ Be7; 2.5 = 17.
/\ Rb8; 2.4 = 17. /\ Bh4; 2.3 = 17. /\ h6; 2.1 = 17. /\ Qb6+; 1.9 = 17. /\
Rde8; 1.9 = 17. /\ Kh8; 1.9 = 17. /\ Bd7; 1.9 = 17. /\ b6; 1.8 = 17. /\ g6; 1.
8 = 17. /\ Be8; 1.7 = 17. /\ h5; 1.5 = 17. /\ Ra8; 1.5 = 17. /\ Na6; 1.0 = 17.
/\ Qb8} 18. Kh1 Rfd8 {3.0 = 18. / \ Rfd8; 2.9 = 18. /\ Rc8; 2.7 = 18. /\ b6; 2.
7 = 18. /\ Ra8; 2.7 = 18. /\ Qb6+; 2.7 = 18. /\ Rb8; 2.5 = 18. /\ Bg5; 1.8 =
18. /\ Qd8; 1.5 = 18. /\ Re7; 1.4 = 18. /\ Rd8; 1.4 = 18. /\ Bh4; 1.4 = 18. /\
Re8; 1.4 = 18. /\ Kh8; 1.4 = 18. /\ h6; 1.3 = 18. /\ Bd8; 1.1 = 18. /\ Ba6; 1.
0 = 18. /\ Be7} 19. Nc1 d5 {4.0 = 19. /\ d5; 2.2 = 19. /\ Qb6; 1.4 = 19. /\
Bg5; 1.2 = 19. /\ h6; 1.2 = 19. /\ Kf8; 1.1 = 19. /\ Qc8; 1.0 = 19. /\ h5; 1.0
= 19. /\ Rc8; 1.0 = 19. /\ Qb8; 1.0 = 19. /\ Na6; 1.0 = 19. /\ Kh8} 20. exd5
Nxd5 {4.0 = 20. /\ Nxd5; 1.0 = 20. /\ Bxd5} 21. Nxd5 Bxd5 {3.0 = 21. /\ Bxd5}
22. Bxd5 Rxd5 {2.0 = 22. /\ Rxd5} 23. Rxd5 Rxd5 {2.0 = 23. /\ Rxd5} 24. Rd1
Rxd1+ {4.0 = 24. /\ Rxd1+; 2.7 = 24. /\ Rd6; 2.7 = 24. /\ Rd8; 2.4 = 24. /\
Qc4; 2.2 = 24. /\ Qd7; 2.2 = 24. /\ Qc6; 2.0 = 24. /\ Rd7; 1.9 = 24. /\ Qc5; 1.
4 = 24. /\ Qd6; 1.1 = 24. /\ Qd8; 1.0 = 24. /\ Rc5} 25. Qxd1 h6 {2.2 = 25. /\
h6; 4.0 = 25. /\ e4; 3.5 = 25. /\ h5; 3.1 = 25. /\ Qb6; 3.0 = 25. /\ Qc4; 2.9
= 25. /\ g6; 2.8 = 25. /\ Qc5; 2.8 = 25. /\ Qc6; 1.8 = 25. /\ Be7; 1.7 = 25. /
\ Qc8; 1.2 = 25. /\ Bg5; 1.0 = 25. /\ Kf8; 1.0 = 25. /\ Qe7} 26. Ne2 e4 {
2.6 = 26. /\ e4; 4.0 = 26. /\ Qb6; 2.6 = 26. /\ Qc6; 1.0 = 26. /\ Be7} 27. Ng3
Bxb2 {4.0 = 27. /\ Bxb2; 2.3 = 27. /\ e3; 1.9 = 27. /\ Qe5; 1.7 = 27. / \ Qf4;
1.7 = 27. /\ Be5; 1.4 = 27. /\ Qb6; 1.1 = 27. /\ Qc6; 1.1 = 27. /\ Qe7; 1.0 =
27. /\ Qc4} 28. Nxe4 Qf4 {1.5 = 28. /\ Qf4; 4.0 = 28. /\ Qc6; 3. 6 = 28. /\
Qc4; 2.8 = 28. /\ b5; 1.3 = 28. /\ Qe7; 1.2 = 28. /\ b6; 1.0 = 28. /\ Be5} 29.
Nc5 Be5 {4.0 = 29. /\ Be5; 3.4 = 29. /\ Bc3; 3.1 = 29. /\ Bf6; 2.8 = 29. /\
Ba3; 2.4 = 29. /\ Qc4; 1.0 = 29. /\ Bd4} 30. g3 Qc4 {
4.0 = 30. /\ Qc4; 2.1 = 30. /\ Qe3; 1.0 = 30. /\ Qb4} 31. Nd3 Qd5+ {
3.0 = 31. /\ Qd5+; 1.8 = 31. /\ Qe4+; 1.0 = 31. /\ Qc6+} 32. Kg1 Bd4+ {
3.0 = 32. /\ Bd4+; 1.0 = 32. /\ b5} 33. Kf1 Qh1+ {
3.0 = 33. /\ Qh1+; 1.0 = 33. /\ b5} 0-1

Well after playing the weaker programs first with Morschies reaching approx. 2400+ and Novag Jade scoring ELO 2299, I was then very surprised to see Saitek Corona scoring 2519 ELO!!

This of course made me look forward to trying out first King 2.54. King 2.54 of course stormed past Corona and beat the Grandmaster rating as well scoring ELO 2651! This is the second time that King 2.54 has scored above 2600 in 6 Test Games!

Next came the Mephisto Tournament Machine Vancouver. TM Vancouver I thought played great and finally showed it's capability storming past King 2.54 with at this point the highest score recorded by a dedicated computer of ELO 2709!!

Wow I thought, incredible! Anyway the last 3 to play were Atlanta, Senator and Magellan.

Starting with Atlanta, I very quickly got very excited as Atlanta started picking up max points after max points. Surely I thought there is going to be some mistakes coming up? But no Atlanta shocks the world with a World Champion strength performance of..........

wait for it !! ........

ELO 2806 !!!

So after recovering from this Senator was next to play this Test game. And lo and behold Senator matched Atlanta score for score playing each move identically to Atlanta and also scoring ELO 2806 !!

Last but not least was Magellan. Well by now I expected Magellan to do the same as Atlanta and Senator. And, I was not disappointed. Magellan also scored ELO 2806!!

All three computers played 100% the same moves in this world class performance!.

MM6 and Travel Champion also again repeated all their moves 100%.

I can safely say that besides the enjoyment of comparing the computers play strength against each other and Grandmasters, this test can be used very successfully to detect clones and closely related chess programs.

Test Game 6 Standings


1 Critter 1.6a 64 Bit - AMD Phenom 2 Core 2.8GHZ 78.7 98.38% 2951
2 Methodist Atlanta 74.8 93.53% 2806
2 Mephisto Senator 74.8 93.53% 2806
2 Mephisto Magellan 74.8 93.53% 2806
5 Mephisto TM Vancouver 68030 36 MHz 72.2 90.30% 2709
6 Tasc CM 512K – 15 MHZ – KING 2.54 70.7 88.38% 2651
7 Alexey Suetin 70.0 87.50% 2625
8 Saitek Corona 67.2 83.95% 2519
9 Radioshack 2250XL Brute Force 64.6 80.73% 2422
10 Mephisto MM6 64.4 80.50% 2415
11 Saitek Travel Champion 2100 64.4 80.50% 2415
12 MChess Pro 5 - P75 63.0 78.75% 2363
13 Radioshack 2200X Selective 62.9 78.63% 2359
14 Nova Jade 2 61.3 76.63% 2299
15 Fidelity Sensory 9 60.0 75.00% 2250
16 CXG 3000 59.6 64.46% 2235
17 Saitek MK 12 Trainer LV 5 90S/Move 53.7 67.13% 2014
18 Saitek MK 12 Trainer LV 4 15S/Move 50.6 63.25% 1898
19 Novag Constellation JR 44.5 55.63% 1669

Average Performance after 6 Test Games

1 Critter 1.6a 64 Bit - AMD Phenom 2 Core 2.8GHZ 452.4 94.25% 2828
2 Grandmaster Performance Standard 409.6 85.33% 2560
3 Mephisto Atlanta 375.4 78.21% 2346
4 Tasc CM 512K – 15 MHZ – KING 2.54 371.8 77.48% 2324
5 Mephisto TM Vancouver 68030 36 MHz 368.1 76.70% 2301
6 Mephisto MM6 364.4 75.92% 2278
7 Saitek Travel Champion 2100 363.8 75.79% 2274
8 Mephisto Senator 362.2 75.46% 2264
9 Mephisto Magellan 360.3 75.07% 2252
10 Nova Jade 2 355.2 74.00% 2220
11 Radioshack 2250XL Brute Force 353.9 73.73% 2212
12 Radioshack 2250XL Selective 351.4 73.21% 2196
13 Saitek Corona 344.6 71.78% 2154
14 MChess Pro 5 - P75 341.9 71.23% 2137
15 CXG 3000 309.4 64.46% 1934
16 Fidelity Sensory 9 291.8 60.79% 1824
17 Saitek MK 12 Trainer LV 5 90S/Move 273.2 56.92% 1708
18 Saitek MK 12 Trainer LV 4 15S/Move 255.1 53.15% 1594
19 Novag Constellation JR 247.9 51.65% 1549

It is also nice to see that 3 computers have now passed the ELO 2300 barrier as well.

After playing 3 Positional Test games, I am now going to move to the next chapter which covers Attacking Play.

Here is the link to download the 6 pgn test games:

http://spacious-mind.com/forum_reports/ ... _games.pgn

and here is the link to download the Test spreadsheet:

http://spacious-mind.com/forum_reports/ ... _final.ods

best regards,

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Hi ,

I would like to help you - but I am slightly confused about what setting to use - do you want 30 second average or 21 ply settings(this many ply could take a very long time) ? And so I make the move on the machine then wait for a response - note it - take back (if it is not the best) - and so forth - forcing it to continue after take back ? is that correct ?

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Nick, how come none of the three Novag Diamonds are involved in your testing?

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Queegmeister wrote:Hi ,

I would like to help you - but I am slightly confused about what setting to use - do you want 30 second average or 21 ply settings(this many ply could take a very long time) ? And so I make the move on the machine then wait for a response - note it - take back (if it is not the best) - and so forth - forcing it to continue after take back ? is that correct ?

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Hi Queeg,

With the dedicated computers it is 30 seconds average time. You just have to set up your Igor for example at 30 seconds per move and let him play. Just do take back and manually enter the moves until you get to the start positions.

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LWSteve wrote:Nick, how come none of the three Novag Diamonds are involved in your testing?

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Hi Steve,

I just have not got to adding more computers yet. Eventually I will add them. If you have any of them then just try it out yourself and post the results here and I will add them to the list.

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As it turns out , I did not wreck the 24 MHZ Igor - I had the voltage too low so it would not work - :D

Here is how he did in the first game - not too bad considering he's a spaz !

Botvinnik vs Grob

Excalibur Igor at 24 MHZ

7. Bg5
8. Bg5
9. Bxf6
10. dxe6
11. dxe6
12. dxe6
13. dxe6 -- (he wants that dang pawn !)
14. Qc2
15. a5
16. dxe6
17. Nxe5
18. h3
19. Na4
20. Qxa4 -- (bravo)
21. Bg4
22. b4
23. d6
24. dxe6
25. exf7+ -- (yes)
26. Rc8
27. Qc7+
28. Bc4+
29. Bxf5+
30. Qc5+

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Cool, I have updated the Game 1 Table. Excalibur Igor 24 MHz scored 1991 ELO and slots right in behind Novag Jade. Did you set it at 30 seconds per move or 1 minute per move? You are allowed to play Igor at 1 minute per move since it is calculating twice as fast with 24 MHz.

Test Game 1 Standings

1 Critter 1.6a 64 Bit - AMD Phenom 2 Core 2.8GHZ 73.8 92.25% 2768
2 Mephisto Atlanta 67.8 84.75% 2543
3 Mephisto MM6 65.6 82.00% 2460
4 Radioshack 2250XL Brute Force 65.4 81.75% 2453
5 Mikhail Botvinnik 64.7 80.88% 2426
6 Mephisto Magellan 64.5 80.63% 2419
6 Mephisto Sentator 64.5 80.63% 2419
8 Saitek Travel Champion 2100 62.7 78.38% 2351
9 Tasc CM 512K – 15 MHZ – KING 2.54 62.2 77.75% 2333
10 Radioshack 2250XL Selective 61.5 76.88% 2306
11 Mephisto TM Vancouver 68030 36 Mhz 61.0 76.25% 2288
12 Saitek Corona 60.5 75.63% 2269
13 Mephisto Nigel Short 60.3 75.38% 2261
14 Radioshack 2200X Selective 59.6 74.50% 2235
15 Mchess Pro 5 – P75 58.9 73.63% 2209
16 Novag Jade 2 57.0 71.25% 2138
17 Excalibur Igor-24 Mhz 30S 53.1 66.38% 1991
18 CXG 3000 48.0 60.00% 1800
19 Palm Chess Tiger 14.9 33MHz 46.2 57.75% 1703
20 Saitek MK 12 Trainer LV 5 90S/Move 42.5 53.13% 1594
21 Fidelity Sensory 9 41.4 51.75% 1553
22 Novag Constellation JR 39.2 49.00% 1470
23 Saitek MK 12 Trainer LV 4 15S/Move 36.3 45.38% 1361

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Igor used 1 min as allowed - I will give results for the Sapphire 2

Novag Sapphire 2

Botvinnik - Grob

7. Bf4
8. Bg5
9. Qe2
10. Qd2
11. dxe6
12. dxe6
13. Rfd1
14. Qc2
15. Rfd1
16. Rfd1
17. Nxe5
18. h3 -- ( considered Kh1 )
19. Na4
20. Rxa4 -- (looked at Qxa4 and passed)
21. Rc4 -- (ahh)
22. b4
23. Rxc5
24. dxe6
25. Rxd6
26. Rc8+
27. Qc7+ -- (announced mate in 7)
28. Bg4+
29. Bxf5+
30. Qc5+

2 in a row for my computers on move 11. dxe6 - why so bad - no points.

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