Final Rating Test attempt.

spacious_mind · Post by **spacious_mind** » Mon Jul 01, 2013 11:59 pm

Hi Queeg,

Just curious, did you ever play outside the U.S ?

Regards,

spacious_mind · Post by **spacious_mind** » Tue Jul 02, 2013 2:15 am

LWSteve wrote: Viktors Pupols is still playing up here in the Seattle area.

I have seen him a lot since 1997.

His rating is always 2200 as that is his floor, and he will never go lower than that.

LWSteve

Hi LWSteve,

Where you writing about this this Viktors Pupols? .... LMAO....

[Event "USA-ch U18"]
[Site "USA"]
[Date "1955.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Fischer, Robert James"]
[Black "Pupols, Viktors"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "C40"]
[PlyCount "88"]
[EventDate "1955.??.??"]
[EventType "tourn"]
[EventRounds "5"]
[EventCountry "USA"]
[Source "ChessBase"]

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 f5 3. Nxe5 Qf6 4. d4 d6 5. Nc4 fxe4 6. Nc3 Qg6 7. Ne3 Nf6 8.
Bc4 c6 9. d5 Be7 10. a4 Nbd7 11. a5 Ne5 12. Be2 O-O 13. O-O Bd7 14. Kh1 Kh8 15.
Nc4 Nfg4 16. Qe1 Rf7 17. h3 Nf6 18. Nxe5 dxe5 19. Bc4 Rff8 20. Be3 Nh5 21. Kh2
Bd6 22. Bb3 Nf4 23. Bxf4 exf4 24. Qxe4 f3+ 25. g3 Bf5 26. Qh4 Rae8 27. Rae1 Be5
28. Qb4 Qh6 29. h4 g5 30. Rh1 gxh4 31. Kg1 h3 32. dxc6 bxc6 33. Qc5 Qg7 34. Kh2
Qf6 35. Qxa7 Bd4 36. Qc7 Bxf2 37. Rxe8 Rxe8 38. Rf1 Bd4 39. Rxf3 Bxc3 40. bxc3
Re2+ 41. Kh1 Be4 42. Qc8+ Kg7 43. Qg4+ Qg6 44. Qd7+ Kh6 0-1

Steve B wrote: if you are right.. Pilnick had a very long distinguished playing career
I guess that means Nick will be slotting him above Fischer's name as well

Geller,Pilnick, Fischer Regards
Steve

pssssssst. Steve!

I think you meant Pupols!

2200 Regards !!!! ...

Queegmeister · Post by **Queegmeister** » Tue Jul 02, 2013 3:15 am

As a matter of fact , I have played in Argentina, Canada (if that counts LOL), Germany , Switzerland, all over the USA and more. Great Time at the World Senior Tournament (as a second). I will post all the GM's autographs I obtained after I scan the post card they are on.

And I have served as a second and trainer to many a player.
I have travelled the world helping rich people's kids in tournaments just like in the movie "Searching for Bobby Fischer " - trained some pretty talented players who greatly surpassed my achievements, my best student made the US Olympiad team.

Many great young players have given up Chess to pursue the lucrative Texas Hold 'em circuit and many have won quite a lot of cash. It seams chess players can make good poker players. I have also played in many Poker events , winning a little cash myself from time to time but not lately - the eyesight , the eyesight.

In the old days we used to play a long game in 2 sessions or more , sealing moves in envelopes while going back to our rooms to analyze with our seconds (helpers) This happened in BIG tournaments - the old style would not work out well now as you know - the computer would just tell us the answers. Damn silicon beasts !!

I have a game in PGN and would suggest you might use it in your evaluations - if you can work it in. Fritz could not even understand it until the position cleared itself - however, the participants were not GM's but I think I came as close as ever to playing like one. If you use fritz to assign point values , it won't be correct though. Perhaps I overrate the game , you fellows can judge it. I hope the analysis comes through. Maybe my opponent didn't play strong enough - who knows. It's WILD like PUPOLS said I played.

Queeg

LWSteve · Post by **LWSteve** » Tue Jul 02, 2013 3:51 am

spacious_mind wrote:
pssssssst. Steve!

I think you meant Pupols!

2200 Regards !!!! ...

ok you have a 21 year old Ruskee playing a 12 year old American boy

Everybody has an off day.

I wonder if Queeg is John Grefe.

LWSteve

Queegmeister · Post by **Queegmeister** » Tue Jul 02, 2013 4:11 am

Ok the "boy" was 16 and his rating was 2205 and he was the one that went on to play in the olympiad - I suppose that might count for something.

I can choose another - perhaps my wins against the senior masters would suit your tastes better - thought I would wet your whistle with this one first. But if you don't like it - I don't care - I have a whole stack of games VS "grown-ups" No problem.......... Or perhaps my 3 games from the simul I played vs 3 masters scoring 2.5/3 (all adults)

John was born in Hoboken !

Queeg

Queegmeister · Post by **Queegmeister** » Tue Jul 02, 2013 9:14 am

Hi gang

This one will satisfy your blood thirst for a sacrificial melee - l played this game in 1977 vs a Russian IM rated 2475

Dig this 40/2 20/1 g/1

White Queeg 2325 Black Ruskie IM 2475

Opening Trompowski - a gambit line with a myriad of sacrifices

1. d4 Nf6
2. Bg5 Ne4
3. Bf4 d5
4. f3 Nf6
5. e4 de
6. Nc3 Nd5
7. Nxd5 Qxd5
8. c4 Qa5+
9. Bd2 Qf5
10. f4 ! e6
11. Qb3 Nc6
12. Ne2 Be7
13. O-O-O g5 ?
14. d5 ed
15. cd Nd8
16. Ng3 Qg6
17. Nxe4 !!

Qxe4
18. Re1 Qf5
19. Bb5+ ! c6

ARE YOU READY FOR THIS ??

20. Rxe7+!!

Kxe7
21. Bb4+ Ke8
22. Re1+ Ne6 forced
23. Qc3 Qxf4+
24. Kb1 Rg8
25. dxc6 Qf5+
26. Bd3 Qd5
27. Be4 Qb5
28. a4 ! Qb6
29. Ba5 Qf2 - is there no refuge ?
30. cb Bxb7
31. Bxb7 Rb8
32. Bb4 Qxe1+ out of her misery
33. Qxe1 Rxb7
34. Qe4 ! Rd7
35. Qxh7 Rf8
36. Bxf8 RESIGNS !! best move

Firstly I think f4 confused my quarry ........
Kudos if you would have played 17. Nxe4 with the idea of attacking on the e-file and sacking the rook ! My opponent looked shocked after 17.Nxe4 and then the rook sac - his face was ashen -

perhaps Black just simply wasted too much time taking all my pieces , especially the numerous Queen moves but when I played 10. f4 my Idea was just that - to chase the Queen to and fro and dance her right out of the game. I always had to keep calculating where she would go and how I would respond - wasn't easy. I believe that the insipid 13...g5 doomed Black. After which, I never relinquished the initiative. I knew my opponent well an that he loved to stay aggressive and accept sacrifices as he had strong defensive ability. Yes he had an off day but I had an ON day !! It was amazing to leave so many pieces hanging too !! I could have easily slipped up and lost at any time - when you attack this way - in for a penny - in for a pound !! And you better find every continuation because once the attack slackens - that's it - you lose.

Better games await but that's what I found tonight.

Queeg

spacious_mind · Post by **spacious_mind** » Tue Jul 02, 2013 10:35 am

LWSteve wrote:
spacious_mind wrote:
pssssssst. Steve!

I think you meant Pupols!

2200 Regards !!!! ...
ok you have a 21 year old Ruskee playing a 12 year old American boy

Everybody has an off day.

I wonder if Queeg is John Grefe.

LWSteve

I am thinking it's Karl Burger, but what throws me is Queeg using the name Mike when he lists his games.

Karl played 5 US Opens and 3 World Opens.

So Queeg how does the name Mike fit with the name Karl?

Regards

Post by **Steve B** » Tue Jul 02, 2013 10:37 am

spacious_mind wrote:
LWSteve wrote: Viktors Pupols is still playing up here in the Seattle area.

I have seen him a lot since 1997.

His rating is always 2200 as that is his floor, and he will never go lower than that.

LWSteve
Hi LWSteve,

Where you writing about this this Viktors Pupols? .... LMAO....

[Event "USA-ch U18"]
[Site "USA"]
[Date "1955.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Fischer, Robert James"]
[Black "Pupols, Viktors"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "C40"]
[PlyCount "88"]
[EventDate "1955.??.??"]
[EventType "tourn"]
[EventRounds "5"]
[EventCountry "USA"]
[Source "ChessBase"]

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 f5 3. Nxe5 Qf6 4. d4 d6 5. Nc4 fxe4 6. Nc3 Qg6 7. Ne3 Nf6 8.
Bc4 c6 9. d5 Be7 10. a4 Nbd7 11. a5 Ne5 12. Be2 O-O 13. O-O Bd7 14. Kh1 Kh8 15.
Nc4 Nfg4 16. Qe1 Rf7 17. h3 Nf6 18. Nxe5 dxe5 19. Bc4 Rff8 20. Be3 Nh5 21. Kh2
Bd6 22. Bb3 Nf4 23. Bxf4 exf4 24. Qxe4 f3+ 25. g3 Bf5 26. Qh4 Rae8 27. Rae1 Be5
28. Qb4 Qh6 29. h4 g5 30. Rh1 gxh4 31. Kg1 h3 32. dxc6 bxc6 33. Qc5 Qg7 34. Kh2
Qf6 35. Qxa7 Bd4 36. Qc7 Bxf2 37. Rxe8 Rxe8 38. Rf1 Bd4 39. Rxf3 Bxc3 40. bxc3
Re2+ 41. Kh1 Be4 42. Qc8+ Kg7 43. Qg4+ Qg6 44. Qd7+ Kh6 0-1

Steve B wrote: if you are right.. Pilnick had a very long distinguished playing career
I guess that means Nick will be slotting him above Fischer's name as well

Geller,Pilnick, Fischer Regards
Steve
pssssssst. Steve!

I think you meant Pupols!

2200 Regards !!!! ...

Sigh...
the list keeps growing

you know Nick now that ii think about it,I have been playing chess for 40+ years

new updated "All Time Greats" list..

Steve B
Geller
Pilnick
Pupols
Fischer

Regards

Steve

spacious_mind · Post by **spacious_mind** » Tue Jul 02, 2013 11:11 am

spacious_mind wrote:
LWSteve wrote:
spacious_mind wrote:
pssssssst. Steve!

I think you meant Pupols!

2200 Regards !!!! ...
ok you have a 21 year old Ruskee playing a 12 year old American boy

Everybody has an off day.

I wonder if Queeg is John Grefe.

LWSteve
I am thinking it's Karl Burger, but what throws me is Queeg using the name Mike when he lists his games.

Karl played 5 US Opens and 3 World Opens.

So Queeg how does the name Mike fit with the name Karl?

Regards

Oooops it can't be Karl Burger he died in 2000 I think....

spacious_mind · Post by **spacious_mind** » Tue Jul 02, 2013 11:14 am

Steve B wrote:
new updated "All Time Greats" list..

Steve B
Geller
Pilnick
Pupols
Fischer

Regards Steve

40 Years is good enough for me! Now this is official! Steve B makes the All Time top 10,000,000 List!

Post by **Steve B** » Tue Jul 02, 2013 11:19 am

spacious_mind wrote:
Steve B wrote:
new updated "All Time Greats" list..

Steve B
Geller
Pilnick
Pupols
Fischer

Regards Steve
40 Years is good enough for me! Now this is official! Steve B makes the All Time top 10,000,000 List!

My CC1 has been playing for 36 years
I think we should add computers to the "All Time Greats " list
Computers have rights too you know Nick

DOCCA Regards
(Defensive Of Chess Computers Act )

spacious_mind · Post by **spacious_mind** » Tue Jul 02, 2013 11:23 am

Steve B wrote:
spacious_mind wrote:
Steve B wrote:
new updated "All Time Greats" list..

Steve B
Geller
Pilnick
Pupols
Fischer

Regards Steve
40 Years is good enough for me! Now this is official! Steve B makes the All Time top 10,000,000 List!
My CC1 has been playing for 36 years
I think we should add computers to the "All Time Greats " list
Computers have right too you know Nick

DOCCA Regards
(Defensive Of Chess Computers Act )

You are absolutely right Steve. CC1 should be top of any all time great list. It is not all about strength but about what you are and CC1 is the pinnacle of what you are!

ps... I wonder if it is possible to lose a game against CC1?

Regards

spacious_mind · Post by **spacious_mind** » Tue Jul 02, 2013 11:27 am

This is the closest that I could get the CC1 to winning. It just didn't know how to promote to a Queen

[Event "U1400 Blue Stage 1 Group A"]
[Site "Active Chess 0:30/1 Hoover AL"]
[Date "2007.06.16"]
[Round "14"]
[White "Fidelity Mini Chess Challenge, LV 3."]
[Black "Fidelity CC 1, LV 1."]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "C25"]
[WhiteElo "1300"]
[BlackElo "985"]
[Annotator "Spacious Mind"]
[PlyCount "107"]
[EventDate "2007.02.01"]
[EventType "tourn (rapid)"]
[EventRounds "18"]
[EventCountry "USA"]
[EventCategory "6"]

1. e4 e5 2. Nc3 b6 3. h4 g6 4. d4 exd4 5. Bg5 f6 6. Qxd4 Nc6 7. Qd5 fxg5 8.
hxg5 Nge7 9. Qd3 Nb4 10. Qe2 Nec6 11. Nf3 Qe7 12. O-O-O Qc5 13. g3 Bg7 14. a3
Bxc3 15. bxc3 Na2+ 16. Kb2 Nxc3 17. Rd5 Nxd5 18. exd5+ Ne7 19. Qe5 O-O 20. d6
Nd5 21. Be2 cxd6 22. Qe4 Nc7 23. Bc4+ d5 24. Bb3 Qxf2 25. Bxd5+ Nxd5 26. Qxd5+
Kg7 27. Qxa8 Qxf3 28. Qxf3 Rxf3 29. g4 d6 30. Rd1 Bxg4 31. Rxd6 Rf5 32. Rd7+
Kh8 33. Rd8+ Kg7 34. Rd7+ Kh8 35. Rd8+ Kg7 36. Rd7+ Kh8 {
draw by repetition continued game like this:} 37. Rxa7 Rxg5 38. Kc3 Rc5+ 39.
Kd2 Rd5+ 40. Ke3 Re5+ 41. Kf4 Rf5+ 42. Kxg4 h5+ 43. Kg3 Rg5+ 44. Kf4 Rf5+ 45.
Ke4 Ra5 46. Rxa5 bxa5 47. c3 Kg7 48. a4 Kf6 49. c4 Ke6 50. Kd4 h4 51. c5 h3 52.
Ke4 h2 53. c6 h1=Q+ {Here CC1 moved the pawn to Queen.} 54. Kf4 {After this
I had to give up the game as a draw CC1 in the previous move converted the
pawn to a Queen but I could not get the game to continue correctly.} 1/2-1/2

Regards,

Nick

Post by **Steve B** » Tue Jul 02, 2013 11:28 am

spacious_mind wrote:
Steve B wrote:
spacious_mind wrote:
Steve B wrote:
new updated "All Time Greats" list..

Steve B
Geller
Pilnick
Pupols
Fischer

Regards Steve
40 Years is good enough for me! Now this is official! Steve B makes the All Time top 10,000,000 List!
My CC1 has been playing for 36 years
I think we should add computers to the "All Time Greats " list
Computers have right too you know Nick

DOCCA Regards
(Defensive Of Chess Computers Act )
You are absolutely right Steve. CC1 should be top of any all time great list. It is not all about strength but about what you are and CC1 is the pinnacle of what you are!

ps... I wonder if it is possible to lose a game against CC1?

Regards

actually I find it almost possible to even play a game against it.. unless you are dyslexic

Sorry for hijacking your thread Nick
I asked G a harmless question regarding his Master status and a fountain of information is spewing forth
(although all of it highly interesting)
would you like me to ask Q to start another thread?

Off Topic Regards
Steve

spacious_mind · Post by **spacious_mind** » Tue Jul 02, 2013 11:31 am

Steve B wrote:
actually I find it almost possible to even play a game with it unless you are dyslexic

Sorry for hijacking your thread Nick
I asked G a harmless question regarding his Master status and a fountain of information is spewing forth
(although very interesting)
would you like me to ask Q to start another thread?

Off Topic Regards
Steve

I don't mind it's all good stuff. Might be less confusing for a pass by reader of the pages though.

Regards,