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Fernando wrote:Clearly everybody here will purchase the thing.....We even should organize a party to celebrate these great news....

wait wait wait, i am being informed by my spy in Germany that the thing brings CC7 Nelson program unto it....but improved of course...now it brings not 100, but 150 opening lines to a deep of 6 moves.

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Not counting the Phoenix computers ..I cant remember exactly which computer was the very last New Computer to be released?
I'm thinking maybe the Novag 2Robot back in 2008?
can it be that long already??
7 years?

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Steve B wrote:
Fernando wrote:Clearly everybody here will purchase the thing.....We even should organize a party to celebrate these great news....

wait wait wait, i am being informed by my spy in Germany that the thing brings CC7 Nelson program unto it....but improved of course...now it brings not 100, but 150 opening lines to a deep of 6 moves.

Malicious regards
Fern
Not counting the Phoenix computers ..I cant remember exactly which computer was the very last New Computer to be released?
I'm thinking maybe the Novag 2Robot back in 2008?
can it be that long already??
7 years?

Septennial Regards
Steve

I wonder how many comps this company consider it must sell of this model in order to think in a follow up with better engines.
I believe as another pal here that this is a....

patrol action " in strength" on the market regards
Fern
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Fernando wrote:
Steve B wrote:
Fernando wrote:Clearly everybody here will purchase the thing.....We even should organize a party to celebrate these great news....

wait wait wait, i am being informed by my spy in Germany that the thing brings CC7 Nelson program unto it....but improved of course...now it brings not 100, but 150 opening lines to a deep of 6 moves.

Malicious regards
Fern
Not counting the Phoenix computers ..I cant remember exactly which computer was the very last New Computer to be released?
I'm thinking maybe the Novag 2Robot back in 2008?
can it be that long already??
7 years?

Septennial Regards
Steve


I wonder how many comps this company consider it must sell of this model in order to think in a follow up with better engines.
I believe as another pal here that this is a....

patrol action " in strength" on the market regards
Fern

As a collector I hope they sell only a few units..decide it was a commercial failure and halt any further production
this will make the unit I own..rare..and quite valuable years from now
Collecting Can Be A Harsh And Brutal Mistress...

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I'll wait until I see it. Seeing is believing. The last computer Millennium advertised as ELO 2100 ended up actually playing around 1200 ELO.
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BUT, if it is a failure, NO MORE comps will come.
To own a rare comp is surely a pleasure, but....

To be capable of purchasing MORE and NEW ones is even better regards
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Steve B wrote:
Fernando wrote:Clearly everybody here will purchase the thing.....We even should organize a party to celebrate these great news....

wait wait wait, i am being informed by my spy in Germany that the thing brings CC7 Nelson program unto it....but improved of course...now it brings not 100, but 150 opening lines to a deep of 6 moves.

Malicious regards
Fern
Not counting the Phoenix computers ..I cant remember exactly which computer was the very last New Computer to be released?
I'm thinking maybe the Novag 2Robot back in 2008?
can it be that long already??
7 years?

Septennial Regards
Steve
That and the Star Aquamarine the same year. How about Excalibur? Did they make a new Einstein model after 2008? Mike Watters timeline mentions an "American Mensa Electronic Chess" in 2010 which I'd never heard of.

I'm really happy to hear this! I've been waiting decades for a Lang engine to make it into a low-end dedicated. I'm going to buy it for my school chess club. Lang's engine's positional style is great for teaching good habits to kids. And compared to the low-end Morsch units, the endgames are good too, even without hash tables.
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IanO wrote:

That and the Star Aquamarine the same year. How about Excalibur? Did they make a new Einstein model after 2008? Mike Watters timeline mentions an "American Mensa Electronic Chess" in 2010 which I'd never heard of.


Wasnt thinking about the "fly by night" brands..Mensa or Saki(or whatever the name is) ..etc..etc
although I suppose the Excalibur would count

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Fernando wrote:
Steve B wrote:
Fernando wrote:Clearly everybody here will purchase the thing.....We even should organize a party to celebrate these great news....

wait wait wait, i am being informed by my spy in Germany that the thing brings CC7 Nelson program unto it....but improved of course...now it brings not 100, but 150 opening lines to a deep of 6 moves.

Malicious regards
Fern
Not counting the Phoenix computers ..I cant remember exactly which computer was the very last New Computer to be released?
I'm thinking maybe the Novag 2Robot back in 2008?
can it be that long already??
7 years?

Septennial Regards
Steve

I wonder how many comps this company consider it must sell of this model in order to think in a follow up with better engines.
I believe as another pal here that this is a....

patrol action " in strength" on the market regards
Fern
As Frederic friedel/ dieter steinwender always said there are only 50 freaks like us buying those machines. IMO they were wrong, but we will see.
What seems like a fairy tale today may be reality tomorrow.
Here we have a fairy tale of the day after tomorrow....
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Fernando wrote:BUT, if it is a failure, NO MORE comps will come.
To own a rare comp is surely a pleasure, but....

To be capable of purchasing MORE and NEW ones is even better regards
Fern
OK this is true
I have a plan B

I buy you one of these
you play it and beat it because you are stronger
you then make a post about some invisible bug in the program responsible for your victory
sales then plummet.. but sales of future models would not be effected by this bug which only appears in this computer
either way I get the result I want of only a few computers sold

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spacious_mind wrote:I'll wait until I see it. Seeing is believing. The last computer Millennium advertised as ELO 2100 ended up actually playing around 1200 ELO.

If it has a Lang engine in it it cannot be 1200.
Even Richards 8 bit z80 A machines had a serious playing strength.
Of course the breakthrough came with Amsterdam and the 68000 hardware.
But before Cyrus and its clones were not that weak.
What seems like a fairy tale today may be reality tomorrow.
Here we have a fairy tale of the day after tomorrow....
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BAD NEWS!!

It is full of GAL chips !!


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Steve B wrote:
Fernando wrote:BUT, if it is a failure, NO MORE comps will come.
To own a rare comp is surely a pleasure, but....

To be capable of purchasing MORE and NEW ones is even better regards
Fern
OK this is true
I have a plan B

I buy you one of these
you play it and beat it because you are stronger
you then make a post about some invisible bug in the program responsible for your victory
sales then plummet.. but sales of future models would not be effected by this bug which only appears in this computer
either way I get the result I want of only a few computers sold

I'm Easy Regards
Steve
Let me some modifications to your plan.

I purchase the thing.
I play it and beat it.
I publish in CNN that the machine was beaten because of serious bugs.
You get that way your devious result.
Then you send me a comp of your colletion at my discretion.
Of course only one of those you have double or even triple...
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Fernando wrote:
Let me some modifications to your plan.

I purchase the thing.
I play it and beat it.
I publish in CNN that the machine was beaten because of serious bugs.
You get that way your devious result.
Then you send me a comp of your colletion at my discretion.
Of course only one of those you have double or even triple...
A Deal!
After I watch the CNN Special Report I will send you a list to choose from


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Steve B wrote:
Fernando wrote:
Let me some modifications to your plan.

I purchase the thing.
I play it and beat it.
I publish in CNN that the machine was beaten because of serious bugs.
You get that way your devious result.
Then you send me a comp of your colletion at my discretion.
Of course only one of those you have double or even triple...
A Deal!
After I watch the CNN Special Report I will send you a list to choose from

Christiane Amanpour Sends Her Regards


Great...but there are some details in the deal...
Before the comp is available, before I can get it, before I can play it and before I can publish the game in CNN you must send me at once the list in order to begin the process.
These things are difficult and cumbersome regards
fern
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Fernando wrote:
Steve B wrote:
Fernando wrote:
Let me some modifications to your plan.

I purchase the thing.
I play it and beat it.
I publish in CNN that the machine was beaten because of serious bugs.
You get that way your devious result.
Then you send me a comp of your colletion at my discretion.
Of course only one of those you have double or even triple...
A Deal!
After I watch the CNN Special Report I will send you a list to choose from


Christiane Amanpour Sends Her Regards

Great...but there are some details in the deal...
Before the comp is available, before I can get it, before I can play it and before I can publish the game in CNN you must send me at once the list in order to begin the process.
These things are difficult and cumbersome regards
fern
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The Doubles/Triples/Quadruples list has been classified as "Top Secret"
by the Schachcomputers Elders High Council
I can show it to you now..but I would then have to

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