Chess Genius Pro

[Steve B]

Hadn't seen it. Looks like MCGP = MCG + 75elo
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and another 100 elo for Hiarcs book which would be used in real games and not random positions and we have 2391
Sounds about right regards
Steve

[Yarc]

Here are the details of game 3/10 of my match between the MCGP and SD:

In this game they played the Ruy Lopez, Steinitz Defence deferred. The MCGP was out of book at move 7 and the SD at move 9:

[Event "40m/2h London book"]
[Date "2016.10.18"]
[Round "3"]
[White "SD"]
[Black "MCGP"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "C79"]

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 4.Ba4 Nf6 5.O-O d6 6.Bxc6+ bxc6 7.d4 exd4 8.Nxd4 c5 9.Nf3 Rb8 10.Re1 Be7 11.e5 Ng4 12.h3 Nxe5 13.Nxe5 dxe5 14.Qxd8+ Kxd8 15.Rxe5 Bd6 16.Re2 Re8 17.Nc3 Bf5 18.b3 Rxe2 19.Nxe2 Bxc2 20.Be3 c4 21.Nd4 cxb3 22.axb3 Be4 23.Rxa6 Kd7 24.f3 Bd5 25.Ra2 Bxb3 26.Rb2 Bc5 27.Rd2 Ke8 28.Kf2 Ba4 29.Nf5 Bxe3+ 30.Kxe3 g6 31.Ng3 h6 32.Ne4 Ke7 33.Nc5 Bc6 34.Na6 Rb7 35.Kf4 Ra7 36.Re2+ Kd6 37.Rd2+ Bd5 38.Nb4 c6 39.Nd3 Ra4+ 40.Ke3 g5 41.Rc2 f5 42.Ke2 Ra2 43.Rxa2 Bxa2 44.g4 f4 45.Nf2 Bd5 46.Nd3 c5 47.Nf2 Ke5 48.h4 Bc4+ 49.Ke1 gxh4 50.Nh3 Bd3 51.g5 hxg5 52.Nxg5 c4 53.Nh3 Bf5 54.Nf2 h3 0-1

Final position:
[fen]8/8/8/4kb2/2p2p2/5P1p/5N2/4K3 w - - 0 55[/fen]
The SD resigned here, at last!

The MCGP played well in this game, as it did in the previous. Not making any bad moves (not that I could see) and benefiting from SD's not so hot moves. The SD was helpless against the two pawn advance and really I should have resigned on behalf of the SD sooner.

Score now 2-1 to the MCGP.

Early days Regards
Ray

[Bryan Whitby]

The BT 2360 Test

http://www.schachcomputer.info/forum/sh ... tcount=144

[Yarc]

Here are details of game 4 of my 10 game match between MCGP and SD using the London book:

In this game they followed the Dutch, Classical variation. The SD was out of book at move 8 whilst the MCGP first went out of book at move 6, was back in at move 7 and finally out of book at move 8.

[Event "40m/2h London book"]
[Date "2016.10.19"]
[Round "4"]
[White "MCGP"]
[Black "SD"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "A96"]

1.c4 f5 2.d4 Nf6 3.g3 e6 4.Bg2 Be7 5.Nf3 d6 6.O-O O-O 7.Nc3 a5 8.h3 Nbd7 9.Qd3 a4 10.Bg5 Nb6 11.Rad1 Bd7 12.Ne1 Qb8 13.Nc2 Ra5 14.b4 axb3 15.axb3 h6 16.Be3 d5 17.Ra1 dxc4 18.bxc4 Na4 19.Rab1 b6 20.Bf4 Rd8 21.c5 Nh5 22.Be5 Qa7 23.cxb6 cxb6 24.Nd1 Rc8 25.Nce3 b5 26.g4 fxg4 27.hxg4 Nf6 28.g5 hxg5 29.Qg6 Be8 30.Qxg5 b4 31.Re1 Nb6 32.Qg3 Nbd7 33.Bd6 Bxd6 34.Qxd6 Ra6 35.Qf4 Qb6 36.d5 exd5 37.Nxd5 Qc5 38.N1e3 Bf7 39.Nxb4 Ra4 40.Qf5 Qf8 41.Nbd5 Rd4 42.Nxf6+ Nxf6 43.Rec1 Rcd8 44.Rb7 Ne8 45.Ra7 Rd2 46.Be4 g6 47.Qg5 R8d7 48.Rxd7 Rxd7 49.Rc6 Nd6 50.Bd3 Qa8 51.Ra6 Qd8 52.Qe5 Qc7 53.Nd5 Bxd5 54.Qxd5+ Kf8 55.Qe5 Qc1+ 56.Kg2 Qc7 57.Qh8+ Kf7 58.Qh7+ Ke6 59.Qxg6+ Ke7 60.Qg5+ Kf7 61.Qe5 Rd8 62.Bc4+ Kg6 63.Ra3 Qc6+ 1-0

Final position:
[fen]3r4/8/2qn2k1/4Q3/2B5/R7/4PPK1/8 w - - 9 64[/fen]
The SD resigned here.

Another well played game by the MCGP. I think its trying to make up for the loss in game 1. In the end game stage with 40 to 50+ possible moves, the MCGP's greater processing speed certainly helped as it was looking 1 to 2 ply further ahead than the SD and certainly picking up on SD's weaker moves.

Current score is 3 - 1 to the MCGP.

Can the MCGP keep up the pace Regards
Ray

[Yarc]

Game 5 of match between MCGP and SD:

In this game they played the Queens Gambit Declined, Lasker defence and both followed it for 14 moves. A long game which ended in the first draw of this match. As is usual for these machines mistakes were made and the advantage swung back and forth, especially in the end game. I had though that the MCGP was going to steal a win, it looked very promising for a while but alas missed the mark.

[Event "40m/2h London book"]
[Date "2016.10.21"]
[Round "5"]
[White "SD"]
[Black "MCGP"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "D57"]

1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 d5 4.Nc3 Be7 5.Bg5 O-O 6.e3 h6 7.Bh4 Ne4 8.Bxe7 Qxe7 9.cxd5 Nxc3 10.bxc3 exd5 11.Qb3 Rd8 12.c4 dxc4 13.Bxc4 Nc6 14.Qb2 Bg4 15.O-O Bxf3 16.gxf3 Na5 17.Rfc1 Nxc4 18.Rxc4 c6 19.Rc5 Rd7 20.Qc2 Rad8 21.Qe4 Qxe4 22.fxe4 Re8 23.f3 Kf8 24.Kf2 g6 25.Rd1 Kg7 26.d5 Rd6 27.Rd4 a6 28.a4 Re7 29.h3 g5 30.Ke2 f6 31.a5 Kf7 32.Kd3 Re5 33.f4 Re7 34.Kd2 Ke8 35.Ke2 gxf4 36.dxc6 Rxc6 37.Rxc6 bxc6 38.exf4 c5 39.Rd6 Rxe4+ 40.Kf3 Ke7 41.Rxa6 Ra4 42.f5 Kf7 43.Ra8 h5 44.Ke2 Ke7 45.a6 Kd7 46.Ra7+ Kd6 47.Kd3 Ke5 48.Re7+ Kxf5 49.a7 h4 50.Rc7 Ke6 51.Kc3 Kd5 52.Kb3 Ra5 53.Rf7 Ke6 54.Rc7 f5 55.Kc4 f4 56.Rc6+ Ke7 57.Rc7+ Kd6 58.Rf7 Ke5 59.Kd3 Ra4 60.Re7+ Kd5 61.Rf7 Kc6 62.Rxf4 Rxa7 63.Rxh4 Ra3+ 64.Kc2 Rf3 65.Rh8 Kb5 66.h4 Rh3 67.h5 Kb4 68.h6 Rh2+ 69.Kd3 c4+ 70.Ke3 Kb3 71.h7 Kc3 72.Kf4 Rh5 73.Kg4 Rh1 74.Kg5 Kc2 75.Kf4 c3 76.Kg5 Kc1 77.Rc8 1/2-1/2

Final position
[fen]2R5/7P/8/6K1/8/2p5/8/2k4r b - - 3 77[/fen]
I declared it a draw here.

Current score 3.5 - 1.5 to the MCGP

Anything could happen Regards
Ray

[Yarc]

Game 6 of my 10 game match between MCGP and SD:

In this game they followed the English, symmetrical, Modern line book opening and for the first time in this match the SD was out of book first at move 13 whilst the MCGP was out of book at move 15.

A longish game of 74 moves which looked very equal until later in the end game stage:

[Event "40m/2h London book"]
[Date "2016.10.22"]
[Round "6"]
[White "MCGP"]
[Black "SD"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "A39"]

1.Nf3 Nf6 2.g3 g6 3.Bg2 Bg7 4.O-O O-O 5.c4 c5 6.Nc3 Nc6 7.d4 cxd4 8.Nxd4 Nxd4 9.Qxd4 d6 10.Qd3 Rb8 11.Bd2 a6 12.e4 Be6 13.b3 Qd7 14.Rac1 Bh3 15.Nd5 Nxd5 16.cxd5 Rfc8 17.Bg5 Bxg2 18.Kxg2 Bb2 19.Rc2 Rxc2 20.Qxc2 Ba3 21.Qd2 Rc8 22.Rd1 Qc7 23.Qd3 f6 24.Be3 Qc2 25.Qxc2 Rxc2 26.Rd2 Rc3 27.Bd4 Rc1 28.g4 Kf7 29.h4 h5 30.f3 Bb4 31.Re2 hxg4 32.fxg4 Ba5 33.h5 gxh5 34.gxh5 Rd1 35.Be3 Kg8 36.Bf4 Kf7 37.Kg3 f5 38.exf5 Rxd5 39.Kg4 Rd1 40.h6 Rg1+ 41.Kf3 Rf1+ 42.Kg3 Bc3 43.Rc2 Bd4 44.Rc4 Rg1+ 45.Kh2 Rd1 46.Kg2 Kf6 47.h7 Kg7 48.Rc7 Bf6 49.Rxb7 Kxh7 50.Ra7 Kg7 51.Rxa6 Bb2 52.Bg3 Kf7 53.Kf3 Rd3+ 54.Kg4 Rd4+ 55.Kh5 Re4 56.Ra5 Bg7 57.Rb5 Ke8 58.a4 Kd7 59.a5 Kc6 60.a6 Bd4 61.Rb4 d5 62.Bb8 Bc5 63.a7 Bxa7 64.Rxe4 Bxb8 65.Rxe7 Bd6 66.Re8 Kd7 67.Re2 d4 68.f6 Kc6 69.f7 Kd5 70.Re8 Bb4 71.Kg6 Kc6 72.Kg7 d3 73.Rd8 d2 74.Rxd2 Bc3+ 1-0

Final position:
[fen]8/5PK1/2k5/8/8/1Pb5/3R4/8 w - - 1 75[/fen]
The Stardiamond resigned here.

In this game the SD made some inferior moves in the end game which the MCGP took advantage of. Again, I believe the faster processor allowed to MCGP to see ahead an extra 1 to 2 ply over the SD that certainly made a difference in this game.

Current score 4.5 - 1.5 to the MCGP.

Will the SD catch up Regards
Ray

[Steve B]

Current score 4.5 - 1.5 to the MCGP.

This is starting to look like a blow out for the London Book
if so,there goes my theory that the Hiarcs book is stronger
Sigh Regards
Steve

[Yarc]

Current score 4.5 - 1.5 to the MCGP.

This is starting to look like a blow out for the London Book
if so,there goes my theory that the Hiarcs book is stronger
Sigh Regards
Steve

Well unless the SD catches up, which is possible, it does look this way. However, against another opponent it could be different again. I have a theory though, that the MCGP is better when it leaves a book opening sooner. I think the SD's knowledge is better suited to longer book openings. Get the SD out of book sooner and the MCGP's faster processing seems to help more especially in the end game.

Just a theory Regards
Ray

[lexman]

I think it depends on the opponent. Against the older stronger langs such as the Berlin Pro, the London, Vancouver etc the London book plays into their hands giving them the kind of quieter knowledge based strategic game that dosn t suit the strengths of the CG Pro. Against other opponents its strategic solid nature can be more advantageous. On the german site the Revelation Diablo essayed the Latvian gambit and got busted in 20 moves.
Having said all that I m guessing that the CG Pro may well be streaky and may well clock up longish sequences of wins as well as losses. So this match could change yet.

[Yarc]

I think it depends on the opponent. Against the older stronger langs such as the Berlin Pro, the London, Vancouver etc the London book plays into their hands giving them the kind of quieter knowledge based strategic game that dosn t suit the strengths of the CG Pro. Against other opponents its strategic solid nature can be more advantageous. On the german site the Revelation Diablo essayed the Latvian gambit and got busted in 20 moves.
Having said all that I m guessing that the CG Pro may well be streaky and may well clock up longish sequences of wins as well as losses. So this match could change yet.

Well I did say against other opponents it could be different. The MCGP needs two ELO ratings, well it could have one I suppose of the average of London book and Human book games. But its still early enough that the SD could catch up, watch this space...

[Yarc]

Here is game 7 already. Draw by 3-fold repetition after only 22 moves, what a waste!

They followed the Queen's Indian Accelerated, Petrosian System. The MCGP was out of book at move 16 and the SD went out of book at move 17.

[Event "40m/2h London book"]
[Date "2016.10.23"]
[Round "6"]
[White "SD"]
[Black "MCGP"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "E12"]

1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 b6 4.a3 Bb7 5.Nc3 d5 6.cxd5 Nxd5 7.Qc2 Nxc3 8.bxc3 c5 9.e4 Nc6 10.Bb2 Be7 11.Rd1 cxd4 12.cxd4 O-O 13.Bd3 Rc8 14.Qe2 Na5 15.O-O Bf6 16.Rfe1 Qe7 17.Ba6 Bxa6 18.Qxa6 Rc2 19.Rd2 Rc4 20.Rdd1 Rc2 21.Rd2 Rc4 22.Rdd1 Rc2 1/2-1/2

Final position:
[fen]5rk1/p3qppp/Qp2pb2/n7/3PP3/P4N2/1Br2PPP/3RR1K1 w - - 9 23[/fen]
Draw by 3-fold repetition.

Score now 5 - 2 to the MCGP.

3 games to go Regards
Ray

[Yarc]

Game 8 of the match between the MCGP and SD using the London book:

In this game the computers followed the Ruy Lopez, Worrall Attack for 12 moves. The MCGP gained an early positional advantage and maintained a strong king-side attack that the SD could not defend against:

[Event "40m/2h London book"]
[Date "2016.10.23"]
[Round "8"]
[White "MCGP"]
[Black "SD"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "C77"]

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 4.Ba4 Nf6 5.Qe2 b5 6.Bb3 Bc5 7.a4 Rb8 8.axb5 axb5 9.Nc3 O-O 10.O-O b4 11.Nd5 d6 12.d3 Bg4 13.Bg5 Nd4 14.Qd2 Nxf3+ 15.gxf3 Bxf3 16.h3 Kh8 17.Kh2 c6 18.Nxf6 gxf6 19.Bh4 Rg8 20.Rg1 Qe7 21.Rg3 Bh5 22.Qh6 Rxg3 23.Bxf6+ Qxf6 24.Qxf6+ Rg7 25.Rg1 Bg6 26.h4 Rg8 27.Ba4 Bd4 28.Bxc6 Bxb2 29.Qxd6 Bd4 30.Qf6 h5 31.Bd5 Kh7 32.Rg5 Bc3 33.Kg1 Bd2 34.Rg2 Bc3 35.Kf1 Rf8 36.Rg5 Rfg8 37.Ke2 Kh8 38.Be6 Bb2 39.f4 Bc1 40.Rxg6 fxg6 41.Bxg8 Kxg8 42.fxe5 b3 43.cxb3 Ba3 44.e6 Be7 45.Qf4 g5 46.hxg5 Bxg5 47.Qb8+ Kh7 48.b4 h4 49.b5 Bh6 50.b6 h3 51.d4 Rg8 52.Qxg8+ Kxg8 53.b7 Bf4 1-0

Final position:
[fen]6k1/1P6/4P3/8/3PPb2/7p/4K3/8 w - - 1 54[/fen]
I waited for the Stardiamond to resign which it finally decided to do here!

A very good game for the MCGP, and its increased processing grunt showed itself here. Again, it was looking a good 2 ply further ahead most of the time in the end game.

Current match score: 6 - 2 to the MCGP.

By move 51 it was all over for the SD, but it's move here of R-G8 might have been considered as throwing the towel in. However, it was only looking 8 ply ahead, so could not 'see' that white could give up its queen and then a little later queen.

The SD could still make the result the same as the previous match! This would be a little disappointing after the run of success the MCGP has been enjoying.

Game 9 starting soon Regards
Ray

[Yarc]

Finally, after suffering a loss of power to the Stardiamond (accidently knocked the power lead, aaargh!), after about 20 moves had been played, here is game 9 of my 10 game match using the London book. I got them to play the same opening so at least the game was similar if not identical, with the result ending in a draw by three-fold repetition:

They played the Ruy Lopez, Modern Steinitz Defence. The MCGP was out of book at move 11, the SD at move 13.

[Event "40m/2h London book"]
[Date "2016.10.24"]
[Round "9"]
[White "SD"]
[Black "MCGP"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "C75"]

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 4.Ba4 d6 5.c3 Bd7 6.d4 Nf6 7.O-O Be7 8.Re1 O-O 9.Nbd2 exd4 10.cxd4 Nb4 11.Bxd7 Qxd7 12.Nf1 d5 13.a3 Nc6 14.e5 Ne4 15.Ne3 Nd8 16.Qc2 c6 17.Nd2 Ng5 18.Nf5 f6 19.f4 Nge6 20.Nf3 c5 21.Nxe7+ Qxe7 22.exf6 Qxf6 23.dxc5 Rc8 24.Ng5 g6 25.Nxe6 Nxe6 26.Be3 d4 27.Bf2 Rxc5 28.Qb3 Rc6 29.Re4 Rf7 30.Rae1 Nxf4 31.Bxd4 Ne2+ 32.R4xe2 Qxd4+ 33.Kh1 Rb6 34.Qd1 Qf6 35.Re8+ Kg7 36.b4 Rd6 37.Qc1 Rc6 38.Qa1 Qxa1 39.Rxa1 Rc3 40.Kg1 g5 41.h3 h5 42.Re5 Kg6 43.Re6+ Rf6 44.Re8 h4 45.Rg8+ Kh5 46.Rh8+ Rh6 47.Rb8 Rh7 48.Kh2 Rd3 49.Re8 Rc7 50.Rh8+ Kg6 51.Rg8+ Rg7 52.Re8 Rf7 53.Rg8+ Kh6 54.Re1 Rf6 55.Re4 Rg3 56.Rh8+ Kg7 57.Rhe8 b5 58.R4e7+ Kg6 59.Re5 Rxa3 60.Rg8+ Kf7 61.Rexg5 Rf4 62.R5g7+ Ke6 63.Rg6+ Kf7 64.R6g7+ Ke6 65.Rg6+ Kf7 66.R6g7+ 1/2-1/2

Final position:
[fen]6R1/5kR1/p7/1p6/1P3r1p/r6P/6PK/8 b - - 10 66[/fen]
Draw by 3-fold repetition.

Current score 6.5 - 2.5 to the MCGP.

I will start the final game very soon. Current performance might indicate the MCGP could win the final game. If it does this would give it a rating of 2366 in this match based on Selective Search's SD rating of 2173. If it loses the last game it's rating will be 2283.

Either way, it's performance is better than the first match apart from the loss in the first game. I will be looking back at that game after this match is over asking where the MCGP went wrong.

One more to go Regards Ray

[Sargon1972]

Hello All,

This weekend was the user tournament in Kaufbeuren in Germany
I have played with the R30 version 2.23 in the A Group
It was a very strong group , and started with 3 out 3 ,then the next 5 games it only take 1.5 points so i ended at the 4th place
The Time management of the R30 30 min for entire game is not good to mine opinion . but ok , the mean key is to come together and see old friends after 6 years ,who welcome me very warm after all these years

Ok u want to know who die win of course

Well it is a bit a computer who is criticised lately on some forums

But with a score of 6,5 points out of 8 games in a very highly elo rated tournament with the comparators
Tasc R40 Gideon
Tasc R30 2.5
Tasc R30 2.23
Phoenix Reflection Lyon 120Mhz !
Meph Genius Londen 68030
Fidelity V11 66Mhz
Mysticum Roma TM on 40Mhz
Millennium Chess Genius Pro
Revalation Vancouver Emu
CT 800 a own build computer

But the WINNER is with 1 lose and 1 draw and 6 wins

the MILLENNIUM CHESS GENIUS PRO !!!!
2th the Reflextion Lyon 6 points
3th the R40 Gideon 5 points

Take that to the bank ! regards Hans

[steffen]

I had the big luck to play the MILLENNIUM CHESS GENIUS PRO. After 5 rounds 5 points! Some very exciting and aggressive games, worth seeing.

Then a draw against the Reflection Lyon (MCG Pro had advantages, then 3fold repetition) and in round 7 a clear loss against the R40 which played his best game in the tournament. That loss brought some tension back into the tournament because the Reflection, which had as 2nd on place been 1.5 points behind the MCG Pro, won his game so that the difference before the last round - round 8 - was only 1/2 a point.

Reflection Lyon won against the Revelation II Vancouver pretty fast, so the MCG Pro had to win his final game against the Mysticum Roma 40 MHz, too. MCG Pro won 2 pawns but did not play actively, only moving around trying to exchange the queens which the Mysticum avoided. 2 moves before the 50-moves-rule the MCG Pro decided to give up one of the 2 won pawns and after the exchange of the queens the connected passed pawns could no more be held by the Mysticum Roma. So the MCG Pro won the tournament.

Group A:
1. Millennium Chess Genius PRO 6.5 points out of 8 games
2. Reflection Lyon 120 MHz 6.0
3. TASC R40 Gideon Madrid 5.0
4. TASC R30 2.23 4.5
5. Mephisto Genius London 68030 4.0
5. TASC R30 2.5 4.0
7. CT 800 3.5
8. Fidelity Avantgarde V11 60 MHz 3.5
9. Revelation II Vancouver 2.5
10. Mysticum Roma 40 MHz 0.5

Group B:
1. Fidelity Sensory 9 CB 16 8 MHz 5.5 points out of 7
2. SciSys Turbostar 432 4.5
3. Radioshack 1900L 4.5
4. Mephisto Manhattan 4 MHz 3.5
5. Mephisto III-S Glasgow 3.5
6. Excalibur Alexandra 3.0
7. Sphinx Concerto 2.5
8. Novag Constallation 2.0