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turbojuice1122
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| Eelco de Groot wrote: | | turbojuice1122 wrote: | | This whole thing also begs even more for what I've been saying for quite sometime: you and Lukas should get together on Playchess and play a 10-game 90'+30" match. |
It would result in interesting games for sure but would you be interested in looking at pictures of this event?  It is not just about chess, at least then I don't think the Leiden participants feel this way, maybe some of the commercials feel that they have little chance of winning at the moment, Chessbase, apart from HIARCS I mean as a Chessbase program also, they have not participated with Fritz or Junior for quite some time, no fault to Leiden I believe...
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Yes, I'm definitely interested in looking at pictures from this event. |
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turbojuice1122
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| On the bright side, certainly well-done to the Sjeng team! This must easily be their most significant win ever |
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Harvey Williamson
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Tournament cross table 1 1 1
PNo. Name 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2
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1 Rybka x + = + + + +
4 Deep Sjeng - x + + + + +
2 Hiarcs = - x + + + +
3 Diep - - x = + + +
6 Crash Test Dummy - - = x = + +
11 Hansdamf - x = - + = +
5 The King - - - = x + +
7 Hermann - - - = + x +
12 Eowyn - - - x + = +
8 Zzzzzz - - - - x + +
9 Joker - = - = - x +
10 Tzjezz - - - - - - x
Pairing of round 7 of ICT08 - International CSVN Tournament 2008
Table White - Black Results
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1 Rybka ( 5.5) - Hansdamf ( 3 ) 1- 11
2 Deep Sjeng ( 5 ) - Eowyn ( 2.5) 4- 12
3 Diep ( 3.5) - Hiarcs ( 4.5) 3- 2
4 Crash Test Dummy ( 3 ) - Tzjezz ( 0 ) 6- 10
5 Zzzzzz ( 2 ) - The King ( 2.5) 8- 5
6 Joker ( 2 ) - Hermann ( 2.5) 9- 7
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turbojuice1122
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| Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Has Diep played Sjeng yet? If not, Hiarcs could still end up getting second if it beats Diep and Diep beats Sjeng. Also, has Sjeng played The King yet? |
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| Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 8:24 am Post subject: |
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| Round 7 has started and Diep faces Hiarcs. |
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PortCitySlim
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Hiarcs looks like it is in trouble against Diep
[Event "Blitz:80'"]
[Site "London"]
[Date "2008.06.01"]
[Round "7"]
[White "Diep"]
[Black "HIARCS 12.116 MP"]
[Result "*"]
[PlyCount "66"]
[EventDate "2008.??.??"]
[TimeControl "4800"]
{2048MB, murder.ctg} 1. d4 {0} d5 {B/0 0} 2. c4 {13} e6 {B/0 0} 3. Nf3 {12} c6
{B/0 0} 4. Nc3 {14} dxc4 {B/0 0} 5. a4 {11} Bb4 {B/0 0} 6. e3 {14} b5 {B/0 0}
7. Bd2 {11} a5 {B/0 0} 8. axb5 {13} Bxc3 {B/0 0} 9. Bxc3 {10} cxb5 {B/0 0} 10.
b3 {9} Bb7 {B/0 0} 11. bxc4 {11} b4 {B/0 0} 12. Bb2 {9} Nf6 {B/0 0} 13. Bd3 {12
} Nbd7 {B/0 0} 14. O-O {10} O-O {B/0 0} 15. Qc2 {11} Bxf3 {B/0 0} 16. gxf3 Qc7
17. c5 Qc6 18. e4 Nh5 19. Qa4 Qc7 20. Bb5 Rfd8 21. Bc1 Nf8 22. Be3 Rdb8 23. Kh1
Ng6 24. Bc4 Qe7 25. Rg1 Qf6 26. Qd1 Nhf4 27. Bb3 h5 28. d5 Ne5 29. d6 h4 30.
Ba4 Nh3 31. Rg2 Nf4 32. Bxf4 Qxf4 33. c6 Kh7 * |
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Harvey Williamson
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| Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 10:11 am Post subject: |
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Hiarcs woke with a hangover:
[Event "Blitz:80'"]
[Site "London"]
[Date "2008.06.01"]
[Round "7"]
[White "Diep"]
[Black "HIARCS 12.116 MP"]
[Result "1-0"]
[PlyCount "91"]
[TimeControl "4800"]
{2048MB, murder.ctg} 1. d4 {0} d5 {B/0 0} 2. c4 {13} e6 {B/0 0} 3. Nf3 {12} c6
{B/0 0} 4. Nc3 {14} dxc4 {B/0 0} 5. a4 {11} Bb4 {B/0 0} 6. e3 {14} b5 {B/0 0}
7. Bd2 {11} a5 {B/0 0} 8. axb5 {13} Bxc3 {B/0 0} 9. Bxc3 {10} cxb5 {B/0 0} 10.
b3 {9} Bb7 {B/0 0} 11. bxc4 {11} b4 {B/0 0} 12. Bb2 {9} Nf6 {B/0 0} 13. Bd3 {12
} Nbd7 {B/0 0} 14. O-O {10} O-O {B/0 0} 15. Qc2 {11} Bxf3 {B/0 0} 16. gxf3 {507
} Qc7 {B/0 0} 17. c5 {315} Qc6 {0.01/19 167} 18. e4 {441} Nh5 {0.09/20 0} 19.
Qa4 {(e5) 98} Qc7 {-0.10/19 144} 20. Bb5 {(Bc1) 19} Rfd8 {-0.24/19 243} 21. Bc1
{(Kh1) 46} Nf8 {-0.17/19 138} 22. Be3 {15} Rdb8 {-0.08/19 224} 23. Kh1 {221}
Ng6 {0.09/20 0} 24. Bc4 {(Rg1) 125} Qe7 {0.08/18 237} 25. Rg1 {87} Qf6 {
0.09/18 0} 26. Qd1 {60} Nhf4 {0.09/18 80} 27. Bb3 {(c6) 82} h5 {0.09/17 104}
28. d5 {(Ra2) 75} Ne5 {0.09/17 133} 29. d6 {(Bxf4) 83} h4 {0.09/18 128} 30. Ba4
{(Bd4) 80} Nh3 {1.01/18 506} 31. Rg2 {97} Nf4 {2.00/18 539} 32. Bxf4 {121} Qxf4
{2.28/19 330} 33. c6 {17} Kh7 {2.28/18 53} 34. d7 {(c7) 89} Ng6 {2.62/18 206}
35. Qb3 {(Qd3) 15} Ra7 {2.82/18 157} 36. Rag1 {(Qe3) 113} Rba8 {5.11/19 311}
37. Qd3 {(Qe3) 78} Rd8 {5.11/17 107} 38. Rg4 {88} Ne5 {11.53/19 323} 39. Rxf4 {
90} Nxd3 {11.58/20 0} 40. Rxf7 {76} Nxf2+ {11.83/19 0} 41. Kg2 {23} Kg6 {
12.05/20 0} 42. Re7 {65} Nd3 {12.28/19 0} 43. Re8 {(Rxe6+) 84} Rdxd7 {
13.14/17 35} 44. cxd7 {24} Rxd7 {13.16/19 0} 45. Bxd7 {39} Kf7 {13.34/19 0} 46.
Ra8 {69} 1-0
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| Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 11:57 am Post subject: |
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| I missed this game, does anybody have a view as to where Hiarcs lost the plot? |
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Harvey Williamson
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| Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 12:33 pm Post subject: |
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[Event "Blitz:80'"]
[Site "London"]
[Date "2008.06.01"]
[Round "8"]
[White "HIARCS 12.116 MP"]
[Black "Crash Test dummy"]
[Result "1-0"]
[PlyCount "78"]
[TimeControl "4800"]
{2048MB, murder.ctg} 1. e4 {B/0 0} e5 {13} 2. Nf3 {B/0 0} Nf6 {11} 3. d4 {B/0 0
} Nxe4 {9} 4. Bd3 {B/0 0} d5 {13} 5. dxe5 {B/0 0} Nc6 {10} 6. O-O {B/0 0} Bg4 {
9} 7. Nc3 {B/0 0} Nxc3 {136} 8. bxc3 {B/0 0} Bc5 {11} 9. Bf4 {B/0 0} Qd7 {105}
10. h3 {-0.21/18 185} Bh5 {174} 11. Rb1 {-0.29/18 0} O-O-O {182} 12. Be2 {
-0.31/17 0} Qf5 {(Rhe8) 92} 13. Bg3 {-0.08/19 595} Bxf3 {96} 14. Bxf3 {
0.04/19 0} Nxe5 {136} 15. Bxe5 {0.00/20 0} Qxe5 {130} 16. c4 {0.00/20 0} Rhe8 {
(Qd4) 121} 17. Qd3 {0.17/18 155} f5 {102} 18. cxd5 {0.17/18 0} Rd7 {(Rd6) 86}
19. a4 {0.45/18 117} Bb6 {(c6) 111} 20. Qb3 {1.43/20 125} a5 {0} 21. c4 {
1.14/16 1} Qd6 {12} 22. Qc2 {0.95/20 128} Bc5 {124} 23. Qxf5 {0.87/19 0} g6 {83
} 24. Qd3 {0.86/20 0} Rf7 {(Kb8) 92} 25. Rfe1 {0.71/18 177} Ref8 {156} 26. Re6
{0.71/19 0} Rxf3 {0} 27. Qxf3 {0.58/21 144} Rxf3 {63} 28. Rxd6 {0.59/22 0} Rxf2
{(Bxf2+) 101} 29. Rb5 {0.38/21 95} cxd6 {(Bd4) 65} 30. Rxc5+ {1.30/23 75} dxc5
{125} 31. Kxf2 {1.44/25 0} Kd7 {50} 32. Kf3 {1.68/23 26} Kd6 {(Kc7) 63} 33. Ke4
{2.91/23 191} h6 {(g5) 101} 34. h4 {4.85/24 80} h5 {93} 35. Kf4 {5.57/24 0} b5
{99} 36. cxb5 {12.00/23 33} Kxd5 {14} 37. Ke3 {12.25/23 37} Ke5 {184} 38. Kd3 {
18.04/22 93} Kd5 {68} 39. Kc3 {25.97/23 0} c4 {(Ke5) 43} 1-0
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turbojuice1122
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| Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 12:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Wardy wrote: | | I missed this game, does anybody have a view as to where Hiarcs lost the plot? |
White appears to me to have a pretty decent advantage right out of the opening--black must play very carefully, and the effects of not doing so are outside of engines' horizons, so it's not a surprise that Hiarcs evaluates this as equal. I think that black is certainly losing after move 26, and possibly sometime before. It was not a good idea to transfer those knights to the kingside. While king attack heuristics might favor such a thing, there really isn't enough potential for such a thing to go well to try this, and white's central pawns are overwhelming. This might have been a situation where Hiarcs' desirable characteristics of having a unique, attacking style worked against it, turning what I would see as an opening book bug into a fairly quick loss. |
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Harvey Williamson
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| Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 3:07 pm Post subject: |
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The final round we are = on points with Diep for 3rd but no idea who will get 3rd.
[Event "Blitz:80'"]
[Site "London"]
[Date "2008.06.01"]
[Round "8"]
[White "Eowyn"]
[Black "HIARCS 12.116 MP"]
[Result "0-1"]
[PlyCount "64"]
[TimeControl "4800"]
{2048MB, patzers...book.ctg} 1. d4 {0} Nf6 {-0.01/1 0} 2. c4 {17} e6 {-0.01/1 0
} 3. Nc3 {12} Bb4 {-0.01/1 0} 4. Qc2 {33} O-O {-0.01/1 0} 5. a3 {21} Bxc3+ {
-0.01/1 0} 6. Qxc3 {15} b6 {-0.01/1 0} 7. Nf3 {15} Bb7 {-0.01/1 0} 8. e3 {23}
d6 {-0.01/1 0} 9. Be2 {19} Nbd7 {-0.01/1 0} 10. O-O {14} Ne4 {-0.01/1 0} 11.
Qc2 {17} f5 {-0.01/1 0} 12. b4 {20} a5 {-0.01/1 0} 13. Bb2 {99} Qe7 {
0.14/17 140} 14. b5 {(Ne1) 139} Rae8 {0.11/17 214} 15. Rad1 {(Bd3) 106} Rc8 {
0.11/18 165} 16. d5 {121} Ndc5 {0.07/18 0} 17. Ne1 {(Nd4) 201} Rce8 {
0.09/19 165} 18. a4 {(Nd3) 184} Qg5 {-0.05/18 360} 19. g3 {(Ba3) 169} Re7 {
-0.18/18 204} 20. Nd3 {200} Qh6 {-0.11/19 0} 21. Nxc5 {(Bf3) 83} dxc5 {
-0.21/17 93} 22. Qb3 {(Kg2) 162} Rd8 {-0.26/18 201} 23. dxe6 {(Bf3) 107} Nd2 {
-0.71/18 93} 24. Qc3 {156} Rxe6 {-1.11/20 0} 25. h3 {(f3) 60} Rdd6 {
-2.40/19 122} 26. h4 {114} Nxf1 {-2.44/20 0} 27. Kxf1 {(Rxd6) 120} Rxd1+ {
-2.48/20 98} 28. Bxd1 {124} Re7 {-2.53/21 0} 29. Be2 {(Qd3) 147} f4 {
-3.42/21 228} 30. gxf4 {87} Qxh4 {-7.46/21 65} 31. Ke1 {70} Be4 {-7.94/22 0}
32. Bf1 {(Qd2) 115} Qg4 {-10.60/21 86} 0-1
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Lukas
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| Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 3:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Harvey Williamson wrote: | Here are the prizes. 1st is a bottle of English Salad cream the 2nd a bottle of Dutch Mayo.
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Rybka has won against Joker - so Jeroen gets the salad cream ?
Deep Sjeng gets the mayo and you get one of these pots?
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Harvey Williamson
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| Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 3:40 pm Post subject: |
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I think we will get 3rd.
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Harvey Williamson
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ICT8 Einduitslag
Written by Jan Krabbenbos
zondag, 01 juni 2008
Ranking after round 9 of ICT08 - International CSVN Tournament 2008
No. PNo. Name Score WP SB PS rat. TPR W-We
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1. 1 Rybka 8.5 40.0 36.75 42.0 0000 - 0
2. 4 Deep Sjeng 8.0 39.0 30.50 38.0 0000 - 0
3. 2 Hiarcs 6.5 44.5 25.75 34.0 0000 - 0
3 Diep 6.5 41.5 22.50 29.0 0000 - 0
5. 6 Crash Test Dummy 5.0 42.5 14.25 25.5 0000 - 0
6. 7 Hermann 4.0 38.5 10.00 19.0 0000 - 0
7. 5 The King 3.5 46.5 10.25 19.5 0000 - 0
11 Hansdamf 3.5 39.0 7.25 20.0 0000 - 0
9. 9 Joker 3.0 39.5 7.00 13.5 0000 - 0
8 Zzzzzz 3.0 34.5 6.75 14.5 0000 - 0
11. 12 Eowyn 2.5 36.5 4.50 15.0 0000 - 0
12. 10 Tzjezz 0.0 44.0 0.00 0.0 0000 - 0
Tie-breaker
Written by Jan Krabbenbos
zondag, 01 juni 2008
If the tournament is played with 14 or less participants a special tie-breaker is in effect to compensate for the effect of Swiss-system pairing. It applies to the players in the lead with an equal number of points(P). Only results against mutual opponents and the game among themselves count for Sonnenborn-Berger (SB) points. Buchholz (sum of opponent) points are discarded.
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Harvey Williamson
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It was nice to see Theo van der Storm in Leiden today. He is the tournament director but suffered a stroke a few months ago. It was nice to chat with him and he gave out all the prizes today. Although the other members of CSVN did a great job in his absence I am sure we all hope he is back in his chair for the Dutch open which will probably be in November.
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