[Palm - Hiarcs] new features

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kralisec
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[Palm - Hiarcs] new features

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Hi All :)

I dream to see 2 features in my loved Hiarcs:

1- having localized letter for chess pieces,
for exemple: I don't want to read K for Knigh but C in french :)
I don't ask to translate all Hiarcs menu, just replace the letters for pieces,

2- to be able in human mode to enter false moves,
in my chess club we enter some games using Hiarcs on Palm.
lots of games from child (but not only child ...) have bad moves,
it's correct the program reject this moves:
but that render the game unusable on the palm !
as far as I know there isn't any chess program running in hand
that can accept false move, I'm wrong ?


Good day,
Laurent.
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Re: [Palm - Hiarcs] new features

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kralisec wrote:Hi All :)

I dream to see 2 features in my loved Hiarcs:

1- having localized letter for chess pieces,
for exemple: I don't want to read K for Knigh but C in french :)
I don't ask to translate all Hiarcs menu, just replace the letters for pieces,

2- to be able in human mode to enter false moves,
in my chess club we enter some games using Hiarcs on Palm.
lots of games from child (but not only child ...) have bad moves,
it's correct the program reject this moves:
but that render the game unusable on the palm !
as far as I know there isn't any chess program running in hand
that can accept false move, I'm wrong ?


Good day,
Laurent.
Hi Laurent,

The first seems a nice and easy addition.

The second sounds like an interesting idea but is actually more difficult to do for Hiarcs than you might expect. I will need to think about it. I have a number of schools using Palm Hiarcs and I would like to help where I can.

Thanks for the possible feature suggestions.
Best wishes,
Mark

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Also will it have a level that can always be beaten?It is just that I am teaching my Daughter to play chess and have tried her against some of my PPC engines on their lowest levels but they are still too strong for her.It would be nice if the PPC engine could replicate the play of the old dedicated units like Novag Solo or Novag Escort or anything else that if you only gave them 5 seconds think time they played around the level of a beginner.I have not tested the Hiarcs 9.6 elo levels but only see that it goes down as low as 1350 Elo and this is too strong and you need somthing about 1000 Elo for a rank beginner.
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Post by Terry McCracken »

Cubeman wrote:Also will it have a level that can always be beaten?It is just that I am teaching my Daughter to play chess and have tried her against some of my PPC engines on their lowest levels but they are still too strong for her.It would be nice if the PPC engine could replicate the play of the old dedicated units like Novag Solo or Novag Escort or anything else that if you only gave them 5 seconds think time they played around the level of a beginner.I have not tested the Hiarcs 9.6 elo levels but only see that it goes down as low as 1350 Elo and this is too strong and you need somthing about 1000 Elo for a rank beginner.
Get her Chessmater....

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Cubeman wrote:Also will it have a level that can always be beaten?... I have not tested the Hiarcs 9.6 elo levels but only see that it goes down as low as 1350 Elo and this is too strong and you need somthing about 1000 Elo for a rank beginner.
Try the "Instant Sparring" levels - perfect for what you're looking for.
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Post by Cubeman »

Thanks for that.Just tested it today and find that it is an ideal level for my daughter.
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Post by 1vfr899 »

Hello everybody,

My name is Eric and I own a Zire 72 with Hiarcs 9.6.

The PPC are great to analyze and play chess and especially i choose a Palm PPC because I wanted to play Hiarcs only (good feeling with Hiarcs).

Here are a few improval proposition/features for Hiarcs Pal 9.7 (nor Hiarcs 10 ?) :

*** = very useful
** = useful
* = why not ?
--- = don't think it is a good idea


*** : pen-pointing on a book move under the board (during Analyze mode or Game mode) forcing the computer to move (like Arena)

*** : few "programming user pen-pointing zone" in the "Little Board Screen" allowing user making action without entering the menu. For example : 1st zone for "flip board", 2d for entering in "Level menu option", 3d zone for "Best second move option", etc...

*** : transfering Pgn file on Memo Card and opening it with Hiarcs because "memo mode" for Pgn reading is not very useful.

* : pen-pointing on the list move on the right of the board (during Analyze mode or Game mode) forcing the computer to move (like Arena) -> less important than book move because 'take back' is very rapid with the "Up control button"

--- : no need "move variation management" would be to HEAVY_COMPLICATED for users and programmer . Only need pen-pointing on move list (but one * only).

--- : no need "editing/managing" Pgn file . Not for Pal I think. Only need to read Pgn file (three ***).

I hope it may gives you user feedback wishes ideas.

Eric
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Post by bretti »

my favorit features/improvements are:

- short cut for "flip board" (perhaps "i")

- possibility to use the opening book stored at the card

- book editor (for pc to edit or create opening books for palm hiarcs)

- possibility to discard the save-game-question after "new game"-command

- german interface

in fact hiarcs 9.6 is already the best palm-chessprogram :)

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Post by Mark Uniacke »

Cubeman wrote:Also will it have a level that can always be beaten?It is just that I am teaching my Daughter to play chess and have tried her against some of my PPC engines on their lowest levels but they are still too strong for her.It would be nice if the PPC engine could replicate the play of the old dedicated units like Novag Solo or Novag Escort or anything else that if you only gave them 5 seconds think time they played around the level of a beginner.I have not tested the Hiarcs 9.6 elo levels but only see that it goes down as low as 1350 Elo and this is too strong and you need somthing about 1000 Elo for a rank beginner.
Palm Hiarcs already has set levels for beginner from 750 Elo upwards. I coach juniors and I can tell you it definitely caters for even the weakest players.

The Set Elo levels range from 750 Elo to 2000 Elo in 50 Elo steps and play what I am told is very human like mistakes. These levels are probably more realistic than anything you will find on the PC.
Best wishes,
Mark

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Post by Mark Uniacke »

bretti wrote:my favorit features/improvements are:

- short cut for "flip board" (perhaps "i")

- possibility to use the opening book stored at the card

- book editor (for pc to edit or create opening books for palm hiarcs)

- possibility to discard the save-game-question after "new game"-command

- german interface

in fact hiarcs 9.6 is already the best palm-chessprogram :)

best regards,
bretti
I will release a free Palm Hiarcs 9.7 soon and it will address at least one of your wishes :wink: the others will have to wait for the major update.
Best wishes,
Mark

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you can do ?

Post by nizar »

Hello Mark,

I'am using plam Hiarcs 9.6

1) for saving game it create every time a new version of the same game

please if you can add option Save with replace

that's mean to have only one game with all moves.

2) is there a database for games where we can open and see the moves.

3) also a database for theorie and opening e4, d4 , ...

thank you.
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Hiarcs Elo levels

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I'm using a Palm Tungsten E2 and the lowest Elo level I can see is 1350. Am I doing something wrong?
Jim
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Re: Hiarcs Elo levels

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Jim Walker wrote:I'm using a Palm Tungsten E2 and the lowest Elo level I can see is 1350. Am I doing something wrong?
Jim
Hi Jim,

Have you set it to beginner mode?

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Post by pwwaring »

Have you set it to beginner mode?
fyi, beginner mode = the instant sparring level presets, selectable from the playing level menu.
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Elo Levels

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Well it's like this. If I select Instant sparring then the Elo levels disappear. Any level other than instant sparring allows Elo of 1350-2000. No other options.
Jim
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