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IvenGO
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 9:52 am    Post subject: Soviet chess computers Reply with quote

Here they are:

http://www.leninburg.com/museum/show_calc.php?n=69
http://www.leninburg.com/museum/show_calc.php?n=299
http://www.leninburg.com/museum/show_calc.php?n=265

these 3 exactly are the clones of "western" production, but I have no idea about next units:

http://www.leninburg.com/museum/show_calc.php?n=328
http://chessm.ru/kompyuternye-shahmaty-partner-2/
http://chessm.ru/shahmatnyj-elektronnyj-partner-debyut/

can somebody recognize them?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 11:47 am    Post subject: Re: Soviet chess computers Reply with quote

IvenGO wrote:
Here they are:

http://www.leninburg.com/museum/show_calc.php?n=69
these 3 exactly are the clones of "western" production, but I


Hi Ivengo
i have this first computer
it is not exactly a clone of the Mattel Computer Chess
this soviet version has a small 2k book and a slightly improved program
the Mattel had no book

no idea about any of the others

Nyet Regards
Steve
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What I know about is

2nd link Elektronika IM-01 => CC9 clone (software);
3rd link Elektronika IM-05 => modified/enchanced Excellence.

...both where sent to Leningrad by Boris Spassky - as the gifts to his first trainer and to his school friend.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the info

i have another Soviet computer which i was able to determine is an exact clone of the Fidelty Excellence-3Mhz
someone contacted me via Email about 5-6 years ago and offered to sell it to me..he called it the Master
the seller had just immigrated from Russia
at least thats what he told me
i really liked the pieces and the price was reasonable so i bought it:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/10261668@N05/858191297/in/set-72157600923814103

Back In The USSR Regards
Steve
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm... never saw this device before... and the name is written with latin letters, not kyrillic... strange...

Also I remember there was a bulgarian chess computer called "Partner" - green & white colored squares, size around 25x40cm, plastic pressure-sensitive board with 16 red leds and small wooden pieces, without display; but looked not like Elektronika games...
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, IM-01 and IM-05 both original development.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 2:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A friend of Boris Spassky wrote the story of their cloning. So these units are software clones (hardware is soviet, different).
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 4:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

IvenGO wrote:
A friend of Boris Spassky wrote the story of their cloning. So these units are software clones (hardware is soviet, different).


I will wait from you a story, and list of same functions of cloned computers.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi All

Been trying to learn more about the Soviet chess computers for years and the best source I have found is Sergei's website.
These are the Soviet chess computers I have so far.

Elektronika IM-01 - http://www.chesscomputeruk.com/html/elektronika_im_-_01.html

Elektronika IM-01T - http://www.chesscomputeruk.com/html/elektronika_im_-_01_t.html

Intellect -02 - http://www.chesscomputeruk.com/html/intellect_-02.html

The Elektronika IM-01 has six mainly v.slow levels. The IM-01T has seven quicker levels. They both have displays. It's difficult to see any similarity with the Sensory9 or Excellence. I have only played a few games against them myself so cannot really comment on comparisons with other comps.
The Bulgarian 'Partner' which was sold on Ebay in 2009 looked to have a replica Excellence sensory board, similar to Steve's 'Master'.

IvenGO
Thanks for the links to the Partner-2 and Debut-M. They are the first pictures of them I have seen.

Keen to learn more and would add an Eastern bloc section to the website if I could get my hands on more of the chess computers.

All the best
Mike
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 3:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What I had read is that CC9 was given to "Svetlana" electronic company for repair and this "repair" took a whole month - the result was starting of IM-01 production. Later, this man gave them Excel for investigation of its internal content, and after it IM-05 project was released.

BTW, IM-05 and Debut-M are currently for sale in moscow chess shop.
Also its interesting to know what is this:
http://chessm.ru/el-igra-shahm-komputer/
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CC9 and IM-01 both absolutely different machines using different hardware, software and operation logic.

It is impossible that IM-01 is any clone of the CC9.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2016 7:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello

just a question about those machine.. I can't find any information about their playing level or even playing style.

As some of you get those machines , did you perform some tests ?

best regards

Nicolas
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2016 7:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://sfrolov.livejournal.com/64569.html
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2016 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sergei Frolov wrote:
http://sfrolov.livejournal.com/64569.html


are you joking?
Here in this place only two persons understand russian, one is you and the other is..

Ларга Vida в РУСИА, компаньеро..

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2016 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Fernando, use Chess language.

And also Google translator for understanding remain text.
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