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ricard60 wrote:Nice Mysticum Nick,

Hope we can see more games between the Roma 32 bits and the strong Mephisto TM Vancouver

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Ricardo
Hi Ricardo,

I am currently playing some games in the Revelation Tournament therefore my TM is for now boxed away. But I will play some more games between them soon.

But since Revelation is out I just played a game between Mysticum Roma 32 and Revelation Lyon:

[Event "Computer Test Match"]
[Site "Pelham, Alabama, USA 30:1"]
[Date "2011.11.16"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Revelation Lyon"]
[Black "Mysticum Roma 32 Bit"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "B11"]
[Annotator ",Microsoft"]
[PlyCount "170"]
[EventDate "2011.11.16"]
[EventType "rapid"]

1. e4 c6 2. Nf3 d5 3. Nc3 Bg4 4. h3 Bxf3 5. Qxf3 Nf6 6. d3 e6 7. Be2 Nbd7 {
Revelation Lyon out of book} 8. Qg3 g6 9. O-O Bg7 10. Be3 {
Mysticum Roma 32 Bit out of book} O-O 11. Qd6 Ne8 12. Qb4 Qc7 13. Bg5 Nef6 14.
Rad1 a5 15. Qb3 Nc5 16. Qa3 b6 17. Be3 Nfd7 18. d4 Na6 19. exd5 cxd5 20. Rd2
Nf6 21. Nb5 Qc6 22. f3 Nb8 23. Bf4 Rc8 24. Qe3 Nh5 25. c3 Nxf4 26. Qxf4 a4 27.
Bd3 Ra5 28. Nd6 Qc7 29. Qh2 Rd8 30. Nb5 Qc6 31. Qc7 Qxc7 32. Nxc7 Rc8 33. Nb5
Nd7 34. Nd6 Rc7 35. Re2 Bh6 36. f4 Bf8 37. Nb5 Rc6 38. b4 axb3 39. axb3 Bg7 40.
Kh2 Nf8 41. Rb1 Bf6 42. g3 Nd7 43. Rbe1 Be7 44. Kg2 Bf6 45. Kh2 Rc8 46. Kg2 Kf8
47. Rc2 h5 48. Rce2 Be7 49. c4 Bb4 50. Rf1 Nf6 51. Rff2 Kg7 52. Re5 Ra1 53.
Rfe2 Rh8 54. R5e3 h4 55. g4 Rd8 56. f5 exf5 57. gxf5 Nh5 58. Kf3 Ng3 59. Rg2
dxc4 60. bxc4 gxf5 61. Rb2 Bf8 62. Kg2 f4 63. Rf3 Nh5 64. Rff2 Re1 65. Ra2 Re3
66. Bf5 Bb4 67. Ra7 Rg3+ 68. Kf1 Re3 69. Bg4 Ng3+ 70. Kg2 Re4 71. Rb7 Ba5 72.
Bf3 Re6 73. Bd5 Rf6 74. Nc7 Kf8 75. Nb5 Nf5 76. Kf3 Ne3 77. Nc7 Be1 78. Ra2 Bc3
79. Nb5 Nxd5 80. cxd5 Ba5 81. d6 Rg6 82. Kxf4 Rg3 83. Rf2 Rb3 84. Kg4 Rxb5 85.
Rfxf7+ Kg8 1/2-1/2

Well it's another draw. Both had chances but missed them.

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Is this game played at 30 seconds per move?
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ricard60 wrote:Is this game played at 30 seconds per move?
Hi Ricardo,

[30:1"] <------------ Yes, sorry I pretty much always play 30 sec/move. Sometimes I forget to mention it, however I usually show it in the PGN as well.

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Hi Nick
Great to read about your newest arrival.
Could you tell me where you got your Roma ROM from?
I have the MESS emulator running the MM5 ROM but I've never been able to find the Lang ROMS!!
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You must own the original Roma Module Set ... Richard Lang still owns all Rights on his programs ... it is simply not legal to use them without owning the original ...
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Right, say I did own the Roma module set how would I get them to run under MESS and and load them into Nick's Mysticum??
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Buy an EPROM burner and extract the EPROM from your module ... this is the only legal way ... a burner costs below 100,- Euro and it is always a good idea to backup the original EPROMs ... otherwise ... look for somebody with a burner ...
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It seems that the Mysticum is a draw specialist :) Here is another test game that I played this evening. This time between Mysticum Dallas 32 Bit against Tasc CM 32 512K Gideon 3.1.

[Event "Computer Test Match"]
[Site "Pelham, Alabama, USA 30:1"]
[Date "2011.11.27"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Tasc CM 32 512K Gideon 3.1"]
[Black "Mysticum Dallas 32 Bit"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "D15"]
[Annotator ",Microsoft"]
[PlyCount "121"]
[EventDate "2011.11.27"]
[EventType "rapid"]

1. d4 d5 2. c4 c6 3. Nf3 Nf6 4. Nc3 dxc4 5. e4 b5 6. e5 Nd5 7. a4 e6 8. axb5
Nxc3 9. bxc3 {Mysticum Dallas 32 Bit out of book} cxb5 10. Ng5 Bb7 11. Qh5 g6
12. Qg4 Be7 13. Be2 Nd7 14. Bf3 Bxf3 {Tasc CM 32 512K Gideon 3.1 out of book}
15. Qxf3 O-O 16. Ne4 b4 17. Bh6 Re8 18. Ra6 bxc3 19. O-O c2 20. Nd6 Bxd6 21.
Rxd6 Qh4 22. Rxd7 Qxh6 23. Qxf7+ Kh8 24. Qf6+ Kg8 25. f4 Qf8 26. Qh4 h6 27. Qf2
Qf5 28. Rc1 Red8 29. Rc7 Qd3 30. Qxc2 Rxd4 31. Rxc4 Qxc2 32. R1xc2 Rad8 33. Kf2
a5 34. Ke3 Rd3+ 35. Ke4 Rd2 36. Rxd2 Rxd2 37. Kf3 Ra2 38. Rc7 Kf8 39. Ra7 a4
40. g4 a3 41. Ke4 Re2+ 42. Kd4 a2 43. h3 Rf2 44. Kc5 Rd2 45. Kc4 Rh2 46. Ra6 h5
47. Kc5 Rd2 48. Kb4 hxg4 49. hxg4 Ke7 50. Kb3 Rg2 51. Ra7+ Kd8 52. Rxa2 Rxg4
53. Kc4 Rxf4+ 54. Kc5 Ke7 55. Ra7+ Kf8 56. Kd6 g5 57. Kxe6 g4 58. Ra8+ Kg7 59.
Ra2 g3 60. Rg2 Rf3 61. Ke7 1/2-1/2

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After yesterdays draw for Mysticum Dallas 32 Bit against Tasc CM 32 512k Gideon 3.1, I want today to play another game between these two. To make sure that yesterdays result was not a fluke.

[Event "Computer Test Match"]
[Site "Pelham, Alabama, USA 30:1"]
[Date "2011.11.27"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Mysticum Dallas 32 Bit, Tasc "]
[Black "CM 32 512K Gideon 3.1"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "B45"]
[Annotator ",Microsoft"]
[PlyCount "136"]
[EventDate "2011.11.27"]
[EventType "rapid"]

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 e6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 Nc6 6. Nxc6 bxc6 7. e5 Nd5 8.
Ne4 Qc7 9. f4 Qb6 10. Bd3 Ba6 {Mysticum Dallas 32 Bit out of book} 11. Bxa6 {
CM 32 512K Gideon 3.1 out of book} Qxa6 12. c3 Rb8 13. b3 Be7 14. Qe2 Qxe2+ 15.
Kxe2 f5 16. exf6 Nxf6 17. Nxf6+ Bxf6 18. Kd3 d6 19. Be3 c5 20. Rad1 Kd7 21. Kc2
Kc6 22. Rhe1 d5 23. Bf2 Rhe8 24. g4 g5 25. f5 e5 26. Rd3 e4 27. Rh3 Rb7 28. Rh6
Rf7 29. Be3 Rg8 30. Bd2 Kd6 31. c4 Ke5 32. cxd5 Kxd5 33. Be3 Bd4 34. Re6 Rf6
35. Re7 Rh6 36. Rxe4 Rxh2+ 37. Kd3 Rh3 38. Re7 Rg7 39. Rxg7 Bxg7 40. Kc2 Rg3
41. Bd2 Rxg4 42. Re7 Be5 43. Rxh7 a6 44. Rh6 Rg2 45. Kd3 Rg3+ 46. Ke2 g4 47.
Rxa6 Ke4 48. f6 Rg2+ 49. Kd1 Rf2 50. Be1 Rf3 51. Ra4+ Bd4 52. Ra8 Rxf6 53. Ke2
Kf4 54. Kd3 Kf3 55. Rg8 Re6 56. Bh4 Re3+ 57. Kc4 Re4 58. Kb5 Re2 59. a3 Re4 60.
Rf8+ Kg2 61. Rg8 Kh3 62. Bd8 Re3 63. b4 g3 64. bxc5 g2 65. c6 Rb3+ 66. Kc4 Rg3
67. Rxg3+ Kxg3 68. c7 g1=Q 0-1

That was a tough game with Mysticum Dallas in the end losing through a mistake. In actual fact there were three major mistakes in this game.

[fen]8/8/R7/2p1bP2/4k1p1/1P4r1/P2BK3/8 w - - 0 48[/fen]

Mistake 1: In the above position Dallas plays 48. f6? which is bad because of Rg2+ which loses White's Bishop and the game.


[fen]8/8/R4P2/2p1b3/4k1p1/1P6/P2B1r2/3K4 w - - 0 50[/fen]

Mistake 2: Instead of playing 49. ... Rf2? Gideon 3.1 should have played 49. ... Kd3! I am really surprised that this move was missed.

[fen]3B2R1/8/2P5/1K6/3b4/Pr5k/6p1/8 w - - 0 66[/fen]

Mistake 3: In this position 66. Ka4 should easily hold the draw but here Dallas makes the critical mistake with 66. Kc4? and loses the game.

At Info the original Dallas 32 Bit has an Active ELO rating of 2098 and the 16 Bit Dallas a rating of ELO 1984. The Revelation Dallas emulates the 16 Bit running at 38 MHz which is about 3 times faster than the original. In my Revelation Tournament, Revelation Dallas is performing at around 2150 ELO which is an improvement of about 166 ELO when compared to the original 16 Bit Dallas.

Now the Mystikum Dallas 32 Bit, since it is emulated, I am not quite sure at what speed it is running. The Mysticum itself runs at 1 Gigahertz, but the emulation itself would be a lot less. Perhaps somewhere in the region of between 2 and 3 times faster than Revelation Dallas Emulation.

But, still with this speed increase, it would not be surprising if Mysticum Dallas ends up playing close to ELO 2300 or even slightly above. Certainly the two games that it has played against Gideon 3.1 have been impressive. Dallas still shows inferior endgame knowledge but the increased speed compensates for this to some degree.

I think I might have to play some more games between Gideon 3.1 and Mysticum Dallas.

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Well I have been tinkering recently to see if I can get more opponents for my dedicated computers other then playing dedicated computer against dedicated computer. Therefore I decided to look at engines and see if there was an equal way of playing them against dedicated computers.

Well the nice thing about the Mysticum is that you also have the ability to slow it down and then set it into the Start Config to play at this speed when you turn it on.

And that is exactly what I did, I played around with the configs and got the Mysticum to play at a speed of 30 MHz.

Now to get an idea of the MIPS speed of Mysticum I found that at normal 1 GHz speed it runs at about 1384 MIPS. Therefore I figured at 30 MHz it should be running at about 41.5 MIPS (Million Instructions per second)

41.5 MIPS is equivalent of a:

- 6502 running at 130 MHz. and since a 6502 with 5 MHz chess computer ran at around 1.6 MIPS this is still 26 times faster than a 6502 with 5 MHz.

- A Mephisto TM at 36 MHz runs at about 13 MIPS (yes a 6502 was faster per MHz) therefore Mysticum at 30 MHz is the equivalent of a 68030 with 132 MHz.

A 486DX66MHz computer ran at 54 MIPS therefore the Mysticum at 30 MHz is equivalent to a 486 with 50 MHz computer.

For my test matches I am going to use Tasc Chessmachine Gideon 3.1 which uses a 32 MHz Arm 2 processor. I am guessing that Mysticum at 30 Mhz is about 3-4 times faster in its MIPS.

Gideon 3.1 has approximately 2350 ELO. His opponent Deep Sjeng ct 2010 has a massive 3048 ELO at CCRL 40/40 when running on a Athlon 64 X2 4600+ (2.4 GHz) which has a massive 174767 MIPS.

Therefore I was now really curious to see how Deep Sjeng ct 2010 would play at 30 MHz. The games are played at 30 seconds per move for Gideon 3.1 and 40 moves in 20 minutes for Deep Sjeng ct 2010. Deep Sjeng ct 2010 has 1 MB Hash. Gideon 3.1 512K Hash.

Game 1

[Event "Computer Test Match"]
[Site "Pelham, Alabama, USA 30:1"]
[Date "2011.12.26"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Mysticum 30 MHz DS ct 2010"]
[Black "Tasc CM 32 512K Gideon 3.1"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "D47"]
[Annotator ",Microsoft"]
[PlyCount "117"]
[EventDate "2011.12.26"]
[EventType "match (rapid)"]

1. c4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 c6 4. e3 Nf6 5. Nf3 Nbd7 6. Bd3 dxc4 7. Bxc4 b5 8. Bd3
Bb7 9. e4 b4 10. Na4 c5 11. e5 Nd5 12. O-O cxd4 13. Re1 Be7 14. Nxd4 O-O 15.
Qg4 {Mysticum 30 MHz DS ct 2010 out of book} Re8 {
Mysticum 30 MHz DS ct 2010 out of book} 16. Bh6 Bf8 17. Rac1 Rc8 18. Bg5 Rxc1
19. Rxc1 Be7 20. Bxe7 Nxe7 21. Nc5 Nxc5 22. Rxc5 a6 23. Rc4 Qa5 24. Qe2 Rd8 25.
g3 Bd5 26. Rc1 Ba8 27. Rc4 Qxa2 28. f3 Qa5 29. Qe1 Ng6 30. Bxg6 hxg6 31. b3 Rb8
32. Kg2 Bd5 33. Rc2 Qb6 34. Qf2 f6 35. Qe3 Rd8 36. Kf2 fxe5 37. Nc6 Qc7 38.
Nxb4 Qd6 39. Qc5 Bxb3 40. Qxd6 Rxd6 41. Rc8+ Kf7 42. Nc6 Rd2+ 43. Ke3 Rxh2 44.
Nxe5+ Ke7 45. Ra8 Ra2 46. Ra7+ Kd6 47. f4 g5 48. Rd7+ Kc5 49. fxg5 Bd5 50. Nd3+
Kb5 51. Rxg7 Rg2 52. Kf4 Re2 53. g6 Re4+ 54. Kg5 Re3 55. Nf4 Rxg3+ 56. Kf6 Be4
57. Rg8 e5 58. Kxe5 Bxg6 59. Rxg6 1/2-1/2

Sucess! Gideon 3.1 didn't get killed and the game was played well from both sides. Gideon 3.1 had a pawn advantage for most of the game but could not capitalize. DS 2010 even at 30 MHz still amazingly calculated most moves 10 or 11 ply deep and still went as far 13-15 ply in the endgame when there were only a few pieces left. In comparison Gideon 3.1 mostly had 6 to 7 plys and in the endgame went as far as 9 ply.
Another thing to note is that DS 2010 playing normally with 1 Ghz calcluates about 100,000 k/s and upwards as the game progresses. At 30 MHz it calculated at 3000-4000 k/s so the speed reduction works as expected.

Game 2

The second game was a Caro-Kann Panov-Botvinnik Attack in which DS 2010 sacrificed a minor piece for 3 pawns. But this was not enough compensation and DS 2010 ends up losing the game.

[Event "Computer Test Match"]
[Site "Pelham, Alabama, USA 30:1"]
[Date "2011.12.26"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Tasc CM 32 512K Gideon 3.1"]
[Black "Mysticum 30 MHz DS ct 2010"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "B14"]
[Annotator ",Microsoft"]
[PlyCount "151"]
[EventDate "2011.12.26"]
[EventType "match (rapid)"]

1. e4 c6 2. c4 d5 3. exd5 cxd5 4. d4 Nf6 5. Nc3 g6 6. Qb3 Bg7 7. cxd5 O-O 8.
Be2 Nbd7 9. Bf3 Nb6 10. Nge2 {Mysticum 30 MHz DS ct 2010 out of book} Bg4 11.
Bxg4 Nxg4 12. a4 Qc8 {Tasc CM 32 512K Gideon 3.1 out of book} 13. Bf4 Qf5 14.
a5 Bxd4 15. axb6 Bxf2+ 16. Kd2 g5 17. h3 gxf4 18. hxg4 Be3+ 19. Ke1 Qxg4 20.
Rh2 axb6 21. Ra4 Rfc8 22. Nd1 Rxa4 23. Qxa4 Qg6 24. Nxe3 fxe3 25. Rh3 b5 26.
Qd1 Kf8 27. d6 exd6 28. Rxe3 Rc4 29. Qd5 Rg4 30. g3 Rg5 31. Qd4 Qb1+ 32. Kd2
Qg6 33. Qh8+ Qg8 34. Qf6 Qg6 35. Qe7+ Kg8 36. Nf4 Qh6 37. Qxb7 Rc5 38. Qd7 b4
39. b3 Qh2+ 40. Re2 Qh6 41. Qb7 Qf8 42. Qxb4 Qa8 43. Qa4 Qxa4 44. bxa4 Kg7 45.
Re4 Kf6 46. Rb4 Ra5 47. Ne2 Ke6 48. Nd4+ Kf6 49. Nb5 Ke5 50. Rh4 f5 51. Rf4 Ra8
52. Nd4 Rg8 53. Nxf5 d5 54. Kd3 Ra8 55. Nd4 Rg8 56. Rf3 Rg4 57. Re3+ Kd6 58.
Kc3 Kc5 59. Rd3 Re4 60. a5 h5 61. Nb3+ Kc6 62. Kc2 Re2+ 63. Kb1 Re5 64. Kb2 Kb5
65. Kc3 Rg5 66. Kd4 Kc6 67. Re3 Rg4+ 68. Ke5 Rg5+ 69. Kf6 Rg4 70. Ke6 d4 71.
Rf3 Re4+ 72. Kf7 Rg4 73. Rf6+ Kc7 74. Rg6 d3 75. Rxg4 hxg4 76. Ke6 1-0

Game 3

This time Gideon 3.1 makes a hash of things shortly after the opening and could never really recover and DS 2010 wins.

[Event "Computer Test Match"]
[Site "Pelham, Alabama, USA 30:1"]
[Date "2011.12.26"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Mysticum 30 MHz DS ct 2010"]
[Black "Tasc CM 32 512K Gideon 3.1"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "D39"]
[Annotator ",Microsoft"]
[PlyCount "117"]
[EventDate "2011.12.26"]
[EventType "match (rapid)"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. Nf3 d5 3. c4 e6 4. Bg5 dxc4 5. Nc3 Bb4 6. e4 c5 7. e5 h6 8. exf6
hxg5 9. fxg7 Rg8 10. a3 {Tasc CM 32 512K Gideon 3.1 out of book} Bxc3+ 11. bxc3
cxd4 {Mysticum 30 MHz DS ct 2010 out of book} 12. Qxd4 Qxd4 13. Nxd4 Nd7 14.
Bxc4 Rxg7 15. Kd2 Rh7 16. Rae1 a5 17. Nf3 Rg7 18. Re3 g4 19. Nd4 Nb6 20. Bd3
Rg5 21. Rg3 e5 22. Re1 Rh5 23. f4 Rxh2 24. Rxe5+ Kf8 25. Rb5 Rh6 26. f5 Bd7 27.
Rb1 Rd8 28. Rb3 Ba4 29. Rb2 Rdd6 30. Rxg4 Rh1 31. Nc2 Bxc2 32. Kxc2 Rhh6 33.
Rd4 Kg7 34. Rb5 Rxd4 35. cxd4 Rc6+ 36. Kd2 Rd6 37. g4 Kf6 38. Be4 Rxd4+ 39. Ke3
Rd6 40. Kf4 Kg7 41. g5 a4 42. Rb4 Kf8 43. Bxb7 Ke8 44. Ke5 Ke7 45. f6+ Kd7 46.
Bf3 Kc7 47. Bh5 Rd5+ 48. Kf4 Rd7 49. Bxf7 Rxf7 50. Kf5 Nd7 51. Rc4+ Kb7 52.
Rxa4 Rh7 53. Rf4 Nf8 54. g6 Rh5+ 55. Kg4 Rh8 56. g7 Rg8 57. Kf5 Nd7 58. Rg4 Kc6
59. f7 1-0

Score after 3 games:

Mysticum 30 MHz DS ct 2010 - 1.5
Tasc CM 32 512K Gideon 3.1 - 1.5

Well as a dedicated chess computer fan, I always suspected that modern engines would find that their Grandfathers would still be tough opponents to beat if they played under similar conditions. I think this great match shows this to be the case. There is still lots of life left in the old dogs.

Now this has opened up all sorts of future great matches between dedicated engines and dedicated chess computers :) But not only this, a normal human being can now also have great matches again with engines!

I will still try to tinker around with Mysticum to see if further slowdown is possible, but for now 30 MHz seems to be perfect competition for dedicateds with all those ancient engines and new engines at my disposal. And all this without a keyboard or monitor! WOW!

Match to be continued...............

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Wow
no way i can follow any of that Nuclear Rocket Science
:P

i am lucky if i can manage to just set an old chess computer up..place the pieces correctly ..turn the switch on and play!

Very Interesting Stuff!

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Great games Nick,

This will be very interesting. Mostly to see the improve or not of this new engines on the middle game and endings with an even hardware.

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Steve B wrote:Wow
no way i can follow any of that Nuclear Rocket Science
:P

i am lucky if i can manage to just set an old chess computer up..place the pieces correctly ..turn the switch on and play!

Very Interesting Stuff!

Beyond My PayGrade Regards
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Hi Steve,

I also struggle to follow what I am trying to say sometimes..well most of the time :P

But I am glad that you are finding it interesting! I am really excited about this now that I know that I can play everything at a certain standard.
Great games Nick,

This will be very interesting. Mostly to see the improve or not of this new engines on the middle game and endings with an even hardware.

dedicateds are back regards
Ricardo
Thanks Ricardo, DS 2010 ct is showing that it would have been a great addition to a dedicated chess computer. The games are interesting.

Game 4

[Event "Computer Test Match"]
[Site "Pelham, Alabama, USA 30:1"]
[Date "2011.12.27"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Tasc CM 32 512K Gideon 3.1"]
[Black "Mysticum 30 MHz DS ct 2010"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "B09"]
[Annotator ",Microsoft"]
[PlyCount "142"]
[EventDate "2011.12.27"]
[EventType "match (rapid)"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e5 3. dxe5 Ng4 4. Bf4 Bb4+ 5. Nd2 Nc6 6. Ngf3 Qe7 7. e3 Ngxe5
8. Nxe5 Nxe5 9. Be2 O-O 10. O-O Ng6 11. Bg3 Bd6 12. Bxd6 Qxd6 13. Qc2 {
Mysticum 30 MHz DS ct 2010 out of book} Qe5 {
Mysticum 30 MHz DS ct 2010 out of book} 14. Nf3 Qe7 15. c5 d5 16. cxd6 cxd6 17.
Rac1 Be6 18. Nd4 Rac8 19. Qd2 a6 20. b3 d5 21. Rfd1 Qd6 22. Bd3 Ne5 23. Bf5 g6
24. Bc2 Rfe8 25. Nxe6 fxe6 26. h3 Nc6 27. Be4 Qd8 28. Bf3 Qf6 29. Be2 Qe7 30.
Rc3 Rf8 31. Rdc1 Qd6 32. Bg4 h5 33. Bf3 Rf6 34. R3c2 Rcf8 35. e4 d4 36. e5 Nxe5
37. Bxb7 Rxf2 38. Qxf2 Rxf2 39. Rxf2 d3 40. Kf1 Kg7 41. Rd1 Qb6 42. Be4 Qd4 43.
Bxd3 Nxd3 44. Rf3 Qb2 45. Rdxd3 Qa1+ 46. Ke2 Qxa2+ 47. Rd2 Qa5 48. Rd7+ Kh6 49.
Rfd3 e5 50. R7d5 Qa2+ 51. Kf3 Qc2 52. Ke4 Qe2+ 53. Re3 Qxg2+ 54. Kxe5 Qg5+ 55.
Ke4 Qe7+ 56. Re5 Qd7 57. Rd3 Qc8 58. Red5 Qc6 59. Kf4 h4 60. Ke3 Qc2 61. Kf3
Qh2 62. Ke4 Qc7 63. R5d4 g5 64. Rd6+ Kh5 65. Ke3 Qc2 66. Kd4 a5 67. Rd5 Qc7 68.
Re3 Qb6+ 69. Ke4 Qb8 70. Re5 Qd6 71. Kf3 Qd2 1/2-1/2

Another draw. DS2010 ct missed it's opportunity on move 40 to possibly win the game. Because the move 40. ... Kg7? allowed Gideon 3.1 to exchange the bishop for the knight and get rid of the dangerous e and d-pawns.

I gave up on move 71 because it looked as if neither of them were making headway in this position which looked all too drawish and I didnt' feel like playing another 100 moves.

Score

Tasc CM 32 512K Gideon 3.1 - 2
Mysticum 30 MHz DS ct 2010 - 2

Well today with the help of Guido Marquardt the Mysticum founder, I figured out by accident that I can slow the machine down by another 50% which means that before I continue this match I will let them both play with Mysticum DS ct 2010 now playing at approx 15 MHz. If this works out then I now have the equivalent speed of a 68030 Mephisto Tournament machine playing at approx. 66 MHz! The Fidelity V11 68030 plays at 72 MHz so this speed would now really fall into the realms of dedicated chess computers.

If this works out then this will be my new and final apples to apples standard.

Ps. If I have not mentioned it before. The Mysticum chess board and program even at these low speeds plays the openings as any other dedicated would followed by correctly playing within the stipulated time limits which in this case is 40 moves in 20 minutes. There is no slowdown of responsiveness of the board. Also everyone is playing with Ponder ON. Truly amazing.

The engines all play with 1 MB Hash and no endgame tabelbases (unless the engine itself has some sneaked away in its program) are allowed to keep everything fair and equal.

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Nick
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Here is the first game with Mysticum Deep Sjeng ct 2010 playing at 15 MHz.

[Event "Computer Test Match"]
[Site "Pelham, Alabama, USA 30:1"]
[Date "2011.12.28"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Mysticum 15 MHz DS ct 2010"]
[Black "Tasc CM 32 512K Gideon 3.1"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "A07"]
[Annotator ",Microsoft"]
[PlyCount "131"]
[EventDate "2011.12.28"]
[EventType "match (rapid)"]

1. g3 e5 2. Bg2 {Tasc CM 32 512K Gideon 3.1 out of book} Nc6 {
Mysticum 15 MHz DS ct 2010 out of book} 3. d3 d5 4. Nf3 Nf6 5. O-O Bd6 6. Nc3
O-O 7. Bg5 Be6 8. e4 d4 9. Nd5 Bxd5 10. exd5 Nb4 11. Nd2 Be7 12. Nc4 Nfxd5 13.
Bxe7 Nxe7 14. Bxb7 Rb8 15. Bg2 f6 16. a3 Nbd5 17. Qg4 Nb6 18. Qe6+ Kh8 19. b4
Nxc4 20. Qxc4 Qd7 21. f4 Ng6 22. fxe5 Nxe5 23. Qc5 c6 24. Be4 Rfd8 25. a4 Re8
26. Rab1 Rbd8 27. Bg2 Kg8 28. Rbe1 Qc7 29. Ra1 Qd7 30. Be4 Re7 31. Rab1 Rde8
32. Rf5 Rd8 33. Rf4 Ree8 34. Bg2 Kh8 35. Rbf1 Kg8 36. Re4 Qd6 37. Qxd6 Rxd6 38.
Rff4 Red8 39. h3 g5 40. Rf1 Rb8 41. Rb1 a5 42. h4 h6 43. b5 cxb5 44. Rxb5 Rxb5
45. axb5 a4 46. b6 Rxb6 47. Rxd4 Rb1+ 48. Kf2 a3 49. Ra4 Rb2 50. Bd5+ Kg7 51.
Ke3 Rxc2 52. Rxa3 gxh4 53. gxh4 Rh2 54. Ra7+ Kg6 55. d4 Rh3+ 56. Ke2 Ng4 57.
Bg2 Rxh4 58. Kf3 h5 59. Kg3 Rh2 60. Bf3 Rd2 61. Bxg4 hxg4 62. Kxg4 Rxd4+ 63.
Kf3 f5 64. Ra8 Rd1 65. Rg8+ Kf7 66. Rb8 1/2-1/2

Well it was another hard fought game. DS 2010 had slight positional advantage in the middle game but Gideon 3.1 defended well.

Match Score

Mysticum 15 MHz DS ct 2010 - 0.5
Tasc CM 32 512K Gideon 3.1 - 0.5

It seems that the additional speed reduction has not hurt Deep Sjeng 2010 ct too much.

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Nick
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Here is the begining of this one:

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here i am fitting it in the housing:


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Here almost finished:

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This outstanding dedicated chess machine is another one from the Mysticum project by Guido Marquardt and the support of Michael Lang. This project is a build it you own dedicated chess machine. I choose the following hardware:

-intel atom 1.6 Ghz
-ssd 16 GB
-2GB of ram

This monster can run any UCI engine; if Revelation loaded with rybka 2.2 went up to 2620 at 500 Mhz then if we load Houdini or stockfish it can go up to 2800 elo or above. It can also run any mephisto engine i load this one with dallas32 bit, amsterdam, MMIV, MMV, MMV(5.1), roma32 bit downloaded from rebel site.

So for the moment this type of machine is the strongest dedicated machine ever build. This hardware can even go up to 1.8 Ghz and 80 GB of hard disk to go in to the world chess championship:
http://hiarcs.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4550


dedicated chess machine back to the world chess championship regards
Ricardo
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