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Larry
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 12:21 am    Post subject: Fidelity Elegance Reply with quote

The best word to describe this chess computer is...well...elegant!
It has a wide opening book, unlike the earlier voice champion and '9'
level machines which the company had mistakenly put in a deep but
narrow book. It seems to me that the Elegance has as an opening book
the CB16 module which was available as an overpriced option some other
models. On startup you can repeatedly press <RV> to scroll through about
a half dozen or so white first moves. Same for black's first move.
On the minus side, good old Fidelity used substandard reed switches
for the auto sensory squares, which invariably broke down. Once these
are replaced, and the junk pieces are substituted, you have a really nice
computer. It's rating of about 1780elo belies it's playing strength versus
humans on it's short time controls. It's a hard nut to crack.
After some six or so years following chess comps on ebay, I'm noticing
the Elegance is actually borderline rare, and good examples are just plain
rare. I bought mine new in late 1984, and had to sell the near new Super
Connie to pay for it. I was pleased with it until the squares started going
dead. I got sick of replacing reed switches and stuck the thing up in the
wardrobe, where it sat for over two decades. I finally got it back down
and replaced 'all' the reed switches. Now it works like a dream.
Here it is:


If you have the option of buying a good one, take it up. A great,
user friendly chess computer if ever there was one.
nice day all...
Larry
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, you are right. It looks great, like the most wooden Fidelitys.
I never owned one like that. For me it is very small and have no display...
I think the smallest of Fidelitys wooden Armada Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jose wrote:
Yes, you are right. It looks great, like the most wooden Fidelitys.
I never owned one like that. For me it is very small and have no display...
I think the smallest of Fidelitys wooden Armada Very Happy
Best José

Hi Jose, Yes, it is Fidelity's smallest unit. Put it alongside the Avant Garde
and look at the difference. Out of curiosity I just put it alongside
Fidelity's '12' level challenger, and the sides are about half a centimetre
less. Sometimes small can be better. Sometimes no display can be
better. Less to go wrong as the computer ages? If all you want is a bit
of casual fireside chess, the Elegance is ideal. Not the same predictable
opening moves each time like some of the others.
The reason they are rare is because of their price. Fidelity were not too
good in the pricing department, doing themselves out of a lot of business
by charging too much. I paid $650 for the Elegance in a time when people
were raising families on $200 per week. If I had invested that amount
into the stock market wisely it might well be worth many thousands.
That's life...
Larry
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is good news for the owners of non-working Elegance computers.
Mine didn´t work properly so I sent it to UK for repair.
It came back to me with a completely new PCB running at 8MHz !!!
It plays a hell of a game now, and the new electronics should easily outlast me. I really recommend this upgrade.

http://www.great-game-machine.com/site-fidelity-uk.htm

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Forgot to mention that you can have either CB9 or CB16 integrated on the PCB.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Christian wrote:
There is good news for the owners of non-working Elegance computers.
Mine didn´t work properly so I sent it to UK for repair.
It came back to me with a completely new PCB running at 8MHz !!!
It plays a hell of a game now, and the new electronics should easily outlast me. I really recommend this upgrade.

http://www.great-game-machine.com/site-fidelity-uk.htm

Regards,

Christian


We Will see just how good this tuned Elegance is my friend
my Saitek Brute Force awaits you at the Paris 2012 Tournament

32KB ROM Regards
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 1:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Steve,

For several reasons I am looking forward to my annual trip to Paris.
As for playing strength the Elegance in this tuned version should be a little bit stronger than the Mephisto Polgar.
So the Brute Force will be well out of reach...we will see.
But the point I wanted to make is simply that there is hope for non working machines.
There are still people around who know how this old stuff works...

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Christian wrote:
Hello Steve,

For several reasons I am looking forward to my annual trip to Paris.
As for playing strength the Elegance in this tuned version should be a little bit stronger than the Mephisto Polgar.
So the Brute Force will be well out of reach...we will see.
But the point I wanted to make is simply that there is hope for non working machines.
There are still people around who know how this old stuff works...

Kind regards

Christian


and a good point it is
i am only joking about the tournament and i am looking forward to playing you and playing in the event
personally i dont care who wins
i just hope i dont go 0-5 like the year i operated the Mobile Master
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since i can not cross the atlantic ocean and go to Paris; is there anyway to watch this tournament online?


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ricard60 wrote:
Since i can not cross the atlantic ocean and go to Paris; is there anyway to watch this tournament online?


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YES
however only my games will be played online as i will not be in Paris
all of the other participants will be phsyically in Paris
i will be playing my games in my humble home via the internet
my games will be broadcast live via Playchess in the engine room
none of the other games will be shown live

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Christian wrote:

It came back to me with a completely new PCB running at 8MHz !!!



Hi Christian, Thanks for the link, I'll be looking into it for sure. Are
you sure your Elegance is 8mhz, not 6mhz? The company you refer
to is advertising a 6mhz Elegance motherboard, not 8mhz. Or did they
overclock yours more on request?
I notice they also offer a motherboard for the Excellence/Par Excellence
clocked at 16mhz !! I will consider that too. To be sure, I did'nt know
the 6502 processors could go to 16mhz, or anything like that speed.
It's the weekend now, but I will contact the company with some
questions, eg is it necessary to send the computer?..or for that matter
is it necessary to send even just the motherboard?
all the best,
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 8:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Larry wrote:
Christian wrote:




Hi Christian, Thanks for the link, I'll be looking into it for sure. Are
you sure your Elegance is 8mhz, not 6mhz?

Hi again, Christian. Just ignore my last post above about the 6mhz
being advertised by the company. I did'nt have my reading glasses
on. Embarassed
all the best,
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Larry wrote:
Larry wrote:
Christian wrote:




Hi Christian, Thanks for the link, I'll be looking into it for sure. Are
you sure your Elegance is 8mhz, not 6mhz?

Hi again, Christian. Just ignore my last post above about the 6mhz
being advertised by the company. I did'nt have my reading glasses
on. Embarassed
all the best,
Larry


Hi Larry,

your reading glasses were fine. As my Elegance is the prototype it ran on 6MHz first. Than the "company" (it´s a one man show I believe) changed the design to 8MHz.
You do not need to send the computer there, if you can use a soldering iron do solder/desolder the power connection cables you can do it yourself.

I have the ParExcellence 16MHz too. In an ten game match against the mighty Dallas 68020 it got 4 points out of 10. Not a bad performance.
For the Excellence/ParEx upgrade you don´t need to send computer there too. Just an exchange of PCBs with little soldering.
Still, you have to be careful with the two ribbon cables which connect the PCB of the Excellence with the playing surface. I managed to wreck both cables while exchanging the PCBs, the cables are delicate and I am a German brute.
So back to UK with both my Excellence and the new PCB LOL.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steve B wrote:
ricard60 wrote:
Since i can not cross the atlantic ocean and go to Paris; is there anyway to watch this tournament online?


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Ricardo


YES
however only my games will be played online as i will not be in Paris
all of the other participants will be phsyically in Paris
i will be playing my games in my humble home via the internet
my games will be broadcast live via Playchess in the engine room
none of the other games will be shown live

Live From New York Its Saturday Night Regards
Steve


Thanks Steve,

I will try to follow them.

Good internet luck regards
Ricardo
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ricard60 wrote:
Steve B wrote:
ricard60 wrote:
Since i can not cross the atlantic ocean and go to Paris; is there anyway to watch this tournament online?


Internet regards
Ricardo


YES
however only my games will be played online as i will not be in Paris
all of the other participants will be phsyically in Paris
i will be playing my games in my humble home via the internet
my games will be broadcast live via Playchess in the engine room
none of the other games will be shown live

Live From New York Its Saturday Night Regards
Steve


Thanks Steve,

I will try to follow them.

Good internet luck regards
Ricardo


Thanks Ricardo
it will be an interesting tournament this year although a bit unusual
you can use any dedicated chess computer you want but there cannot be more then 32KB ROM
Rom Limit Regards
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