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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 3:45 pm    Post subject: Hiarcs Database Capabilities Reply with quote

Very Happy Very Happy

I have been updating my Chess web Page, where I use pgn4web, a program that requires PGN files.

To my surprise I find Hiarcs much simpler to use than ChessBase with PGN files, specially the tablebases information and inserting comments, evals, etc...

(I have a lot of Endgames and Endgame Studies there, so it is very useful).

And of course, on top of that, everything is on the Mac. But I could have never imagined I would prefer to use Hiarcs over ChessBase! (I have been using CB since 1987!)

So thanks a lot for a magnificent product!. Well worth it! And everything is very user friendly...

(Obviously some functions of CB are just unbeatable. But still!)




P.S.: For those interested in Endgames and Endgame studies, you can try chess.semprun.net . There are even 900+ puzzles provided by Paolo Casaschi (pgn4web)
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Mark Uniacke
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am delighted you like our new product so much.
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To my surprise I find Hiarcs much simpler to use than ChessBase with PGN files, specially the tablebases information and inserting comments, evals, etc...

(I have a lot of Endgames and Endgame Studies there, so it is very useful).

And of course, on top of that, everything is on the Mac. But I could have never imagined I would prefer to use Hiarcs over ChessBase! (I have been using CB since 1987!)

Since you have been using Chessbase for so many years I take that as a great compliment, thank you.

I imagine you must of been one of the first users of Chessbase and of course in 1987 it was on floppy disks!
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 5:20 pm    Post subject: Insert variation (forced) Reply with quote

While inputting a game of mine I am missing a useful CB feature they took a while to implement, that of beginning a variation with the same move as in the game, typically used to analyse the final position of a game that was not played out...

So I guess this is kind of a feature request, or if it is there, how is it done?

Thx,
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 9:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Insert variation (forced) Reply with quote

Zen_learner wrote:
While inputting a game of mine I am missing a useful CB feature they took a while to implement, that of beginning a variation with the same move as in the game, typically used to analyse the final position of a game that was not played out...

I'd like this as well.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This may be what you are looking for:
1. go to the end of the game
2. enter moves to continue game
3. go back to move before last move in actual game
4. press shift and enter last move

Then game will have variation including last move of game.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Mark. That is what I was trying to do.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 4:50 pm    Post subject: Hiarcs Database Capabilities Reply with quote

Continuing with my testing, I converted the Mega 2012 of CB to pgn (didnot, stopped at 2.5 Million games). Even this pgn file got the message 'too large for Hiarcs'.

So what's the limit and why? It seems I have found a real reason for the CBH format.. (I knew it was much more efficient in terms of storage... now it seems there is something else)

Again, my CTG file would be from Mega2012 (plus the CBM updates) so the request I read elsewhere about Hiarcs being able to read CTG files would not make much sense to me if the size would be a problem too!

Still loving the product!
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 4:55 pm    Post subject: Hiarcs Database Capabilities Reply with quote

And while thinking about it, I figured that a 'Database window' could be developed to manage databases, what we get now is Macs finder, perhaps a web styled browser of pgn files?

Ok, that's only after you have made your first million from Hiarcs sales Smile Smile

And again, that's possibly one of CB weakest links, is too slow! (so perhaps is not a good idea AT ALL!)
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 2:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the max PGN database is 1million games as I understand it.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is now 1.5 million games in version 1.1. That is per database tab, it is possible to have more than 1.5 million games open in HCE.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:42 am    Post subject: position searching in HCE Reply with quote

How to?

I open a game in database "My own games", go to move 12 for instance and now I want to search this position in another database. I can't figure out how to do this. If it is not possible then HCE to me is not usuable.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 11:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is easy to search for a position in a different tab/database:
1) Edit->Copy->Position
2) Click on db tab you want and choose Search->Position
3) In Search Position dialog click Paste FEN button and click OK.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay Mark, That is the way to do it Very Happy Thanks for the quick response.
Best regards,Rob
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