Good test for dedicated and PDA or PC.

Cubeman · Post by **Cubeman** » Mon Nov 19, 2007 11:16 am

White to move and win.
[fen]8/p7/1rp2kp1/8/2Qpq3/3N4/Pb3PP1/1R4K1 w - - 0 1 [/fen]
Qg8!! leads to a clear advantage.This a possible continuation from the Kramnik-Meydorov, Tal memorial tourney.
Toga II 1.2.1a takes just over 5 minutes on my PPC to find Qg8!!.

Post by **Harvey Williamson** » Mon Nov 19, 2007 11:22 am

Less than 10 seconds!

New game, Blitz:60'+15"
8/p7/1rp2kp1/8/2Qpq3/3N4/Pb3PP1/1R4K1 w - - 0 1

Analysis by HIARCS 11.94p MP T:

1.Rxb2 Rxb2 2.Nxb2 Qb1+ 3.Kh2 Qxb2 4.Qxc6+ Kg7 5.f4 Qf2 6.Qd7+ Kh6 7.Qd6 Qh4+ 8.Kg1 Qe1+ 9.Kh2 Qh4+
= (0.00) Depth: 11/31 00:00:00 1074kN
1.Rxb2 Rxb2 2.Nxb2 Qb1+ 3.Kh2 Qxb2 4.Qxc6+ Kg7 5.f4 Qf2 6.Qd7+ Kh6 7.Qd6 Qh4+ 8.Kg1 Qe1+ 9.Kh2 Qh4+
= (0.00) Depth: 12/33 00:00:01 4174kN
1.Rxb2 Rxb2 2.Nxb2 Qb1+ 3.Kh2 Qxb2 4.Qxc6+ Kg7 5.f4 Qf2 6.Qd7+ Kh6 7.Qd6 Qh4+ 8.Kg1 Qe1+ 9.Kh2 Qh4+
= (0.00) Depth: 13/36 00:00:02 7130kN, tb=2
1.Qg8
= (0.00) Depth: 13/36 00:00:05 16456kN, tb=2
1.Qg8
= (0.25) Depth: 13/36 00:00:05 18422kN, tb=2
1.Qg8 Ba3 2.Re1 Rb1 3.Rxb1 Qxd3 4.Re1 Qf5 5.Qh8+ Kf7 6.Qxd4 Bc5 7.Qb2 Kg8 8.Re5 Qf8
+- (2.65) Depth: 13/37 00:00:09 31038kN, tb=2

(Williamson, 19.11.2007)

auditt · Post by **auditt** » Mon Nov 19, 2007 11:05 pm

28 secs, Palm T5 !

Cubeman · Post by **Cubeman** » Tue Nov 20, 2007 12:54 am

auditt wrote:28 secs, Palm T5 !

That is a strange result, as I have Hiarcs 9.7 analysing this position too.
The engine is set to the default settings with 2048Kb hash.It has been looking at the position for over an hour and has the following output.
D12 5014s -0.23 Rxb2 Rxb2 Nxb2
D12 Qg8 4/37 38922972N.
As you can see it is now considering Qg8 but has not confirmed if it is the best this is now after 2hours and 43 sec.
If any one can reproduce the 28 secs with a Palm T5 or even T3 overclocked I will be amazed.

Post by **Steve B** » Tue Nov 20, 2007 7:27 am

Cubeman wrote:White to move and win.
[fen]8/p7/1rp2kp1/8/2Qpq3/3N4/Pb3PP1/1R4K1 w - - 0 1 [/fen]
Qg8!! leads to a clear advantage.This a possible continuation from the Kramnik-Meydorov, Tal memorial tourney.
Toga II 1.2.1a takes just over 5 minutes on my PPC to find Qg8!!.

Res II-Engine X finds Qg8 in 1 min..47 seconds and stays with it for the full 15 min i let it run...scoring the position as + 1.89 for white

Mega Powerful Regards
Steve

Cubeman · Post by **Cubeman** » Tue Nov 20, 2007 7:37 am

Impressive result for Res II-Engine X.
What is Engine X and who programs it?

miroche · Post by **miroche** » Tue Nov 20, 2007 12:38 pm

My Palm T3 = 43s ! ! !
(not overclocked) Level = Time Control Preset 40/60

mclane · Post by **mclane** » Tue Nov 20, 2007 1:23 pm

D8 25s Qg8 Palm T3 oc 600 mhz Hiarcs9.7.

mclane · Post by **mclane** » Tue Nov 20, 2007 1:54 pm

for the first time positive score is D11 673s 0.32! Qg8

ricard60 · Post by **ricard60** » Tue Nov 20, 2007 6:20 pm

Palm zire 72 saw it in 25 sec. level=all the game in 60 min.

hiarcs 9.6 regards
Ricardo

Post by **Steve B** » Tue Nov 20, 2007 6:20 pm

Cubeman wrote:Impressive result for Res II-Engine X.
What is Engine X and who programs it?

Res II HAS 7 Engines
i guess you saw that there is a match where i am operating Res II with the engine remaining unknown to the members..called appropriately.. Engine X
as a warm up to the match.. i used the mystery engine on your position

Masked Crusader Regards
Steve

auditt · Post by **auditt** » Tue Nov 20, 2007 6:32 pm

Cubeman wrote:
auditt wrote:28 secs, Palm T5 !
That is a strange result, as I have Hiarcs 9.7 analysing this position too.
The engine is set to the default settings with 2048Kb hash.It has been looking at the position for over an hour and has the following output.
D12 5014s -0.23 Rxb2 Rxb2 Nxb2
D12 Qg8 4/37 38922972N.
As you can see it is now considering Qg8 but has not confirmed if it is the best this is now after 2hours and 43 sec.
If any one can reproduce the 28 secs with a Palm T5 or even T3 overclocked I will be amazed.

Yep, 29 Secs on a standard T5 (not overclocked), standard hash table of 2MB at time control G/30 !

D8 29s -0.26 Qg8

Actually the Res II-Engine X results don't look that impressive compared to my 'lowly' Palm (the HIARCS always seems very impressive on the Palm Intel Intel PXA261).

cheers, Mark

ricard60 · Post by **ricard60** » Tue Nov 20, 2007 6:39 pm

On my zire 72 see it at that time and then stick with it for 1 min. and 35 sec when it makes the move score:0.00

Cubeman · Post by **Cubeman** » Wed Nov 21, 2007 2:18 am

Thanks for all the quick replies.It seems that Hiarcs for Palm works differently on Palm devices compared too PocketPC using styletap.
Because when I tested Hiarcs 9.7 using my iPaq hx4700 under styletap it took Hiarcs 22131 seconds (which is just over 6 hours) to find Qg8 as best and was only achived at the D 12 depth.
I no longer have a Palm unit and can't test my idea, but from all the replies it does seem true.

mclane · Post by **mclane** » Wed Nov 21, 2007 1:27 pm

if this is true than testing with this styletab hiarcs is very contraproductive.
could it be that hiarcs rus without hash on those emulations ?

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Good test for dedicated and PDA or PC.

Good test for dedicated and PDA or PC.

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