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Harvey Williamson
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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2013 3:28 pm    Post subject: The Ultimate Dedicated Challenge Reply with quote

Steve and I have decided to find which was the greatest dedicated machine of all time. A 10 round match between two of the best.

Round 1 is this Sunday at 1700 Playchess server time in the Cafe. Guests can watch in the Cafe.

I will be operating the Mephisto Genius London 68030. Number 2 on the Selective Search ratings list.

To keep you in suspense I will let Steve tell you what he is challenging with. All games will be posted in this thread.
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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2013 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i shall be operating the World Famous Tasc R30



Time Control 1 min /Avg
Harvey and i will be permitted to choose the opening move for each computer
(both White and Blacks First move)

London 030 gets White in game one



May The Better Chess Computer Win Regards
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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2013 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looking forward to it. Perhaps Michael Buffer is available...
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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2013 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SirDave wrote:
Looking forward to it. Perhaps Michael Buffer is available...


The Winner of this match earns the right to challenge your best most powerful Plastic chess computer

Bring It Regards
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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 1:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steve & Harvey

I would like Novag Diamond aka "The Black Beauty" to play the winner (but with conditions)

The first computer to 2 points wins. Draws = 1/2 point //// Loss = 0 //// Win = 1 point

And since both of you guys are using 32 bit machines and "The Black Beauty"
is a 8 bit machine, I will ask for a longer time control.

You guys both get your 1 min. avg. response
"The Black Beauty" gets Tournament Level 8 or 40 moves in 2.5 hours = 3.75 min. per move avg.

32 bit divided by 8 bit = 4 or 3.75 which is close enough to 4 for me.

You guys have modules + huge opening book over "The Black Beauty"

"The Black Beauty" gets close to 4X more time since it is only an 8 bit machine and he is going up against a 32 bit machine.

I just did a test run with "The Black Beauty" on tournament level 8 - -
40 moves in 2.5 hours and he like to take his time. Cool

Is the winner up to it with the conditions I stated above?

"The Black Beauty" likes to chop up kindling in his spare time, Regards Cool

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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I cant speak for Harvey but i will have to respectfully decline your challenge

the match will take us about 10 weeks to complete given we can only play 1 game per week..the difference in time zones is hard to overcome
after a long grueling match like that i think i will need to turn my attention to more basic needs such as a neglected wife,infuriated family and friends,home repairs,purchase of medical and dental supplies.. ..etc etc

although in Principal i think a match under those conditions would be interesting

Possibly In The Future Regards
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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steve B wrote:
I cant speak for Harvey but i will have to respectfully decline your challenge

the match will take us about 10 weeks to complete given we can only play 1 game per week..the difference in time zones is hard to overcome
after a long grueling match like that i think i will need to turn my attention to more basic needs such as a neglected wife,infuriated family and friends,home repairs,purchase of medical and dental supplies.. ..etc etc

although in Principal i think a match under those conditions would be interesting

Possibly In The Future Regards
Steve


I am afraid I am with Steve on this one. My Genius after defeating the tasc 10-0 will need a holiday in the sun to recharge.
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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 7:35 pm    Post subject: Re: The Ultimate Dedicated Challenge Reply with quote

Harvey Williamson wrote:
Steve and I have decided to find which was the greatest dedicated machine of all time. A 10 round match between two of the best.

Round 1 is this Sunday at 1700 Playchess server time in the Cafe. Guests can watch in the Cafe.

I will be operating the Mephisto Genius London 68030. Number 2 on the Selective Search ratings list.

To keep you in suspense I will let Steve tell you what he is challenging with. All games will be posted in this thread.


Sound like a great idea! Smile Will certainly be a very interesting match between the two giants of the past and definitely a match worth watching. Good luck to you both and may the best computer win!

Which opening-libraries will you two use for the challenge?
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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 7:41 pm    Post subject: Re: The Ultimate Dedicated Challenge Reply with quote

Lars Sandin wrote:
Harvey Williamson wrote:
Steve and I have decided to find which was the greatest dedicated machine of all time. A 10 round match between two of the best.

Round 1 is this Sunday at 1700 Playchess server time in the Cafe. Guests can watch in the Cafe.

I will be operating the Mephisto Genius London 68030. Number 2 on the Selective Search ratings list.

To keep you in suspense I will let Steve tell you what he is challenging with. All games will be posted in this thread.


Sound like a great idea! Smile Will certainly be a very interesting match between the two giants of the past and definitely a match worth watching. Good luck to you both and may the best computer win!

Which opening-libraries will you two use for the challenge?


I Havent decided yet Lars
there has to be some element of Surprise
Razz
chances are the Tasc will utterly destroy the London so perhaps i will take it easy and use a very passive book

We Shall See Regards
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PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2013 2:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steve B wrote:
SirDave wrote:
Looking forward to it. Perhaps Michael Buffer is available...


The Winner of this match earns the right to challenge your best most powerful Plastic chess computer

Bring It Regards
Steve


I convened a meeting of my strongest plastic computers (in no particular order of strength: RS 2250XL, Fidelity Designer 2265, Fidelity Modular Polgar, Novag Citrine & Obsidian & Zircon II, Saitek Mephisto Master Chess, Saitek Barracuda) and presented them with the prospect of facing off with either the Tasc R30 or the Mephisto Genius 68030.

Try to picture a group of ordinarily quiet chess boards suddenly starting to shake, LEDs randomly flashing and pieces flying all over the place. After that initial shock, the Fidelity 2265, acting as spokesman, inquired as to the possibility of performance-enhancing drugs that would add an extra 200-300 Elo. A search of the internet resulted in no such product. All boards then apparently agreed that I'd better rethink or they would shut down permanently.

Major Plastic Inferiority Complex Regards,
Dave
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PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2013 5:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steve:

1.e4

and (when Black)...

...imbalance.
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PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2013 9:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My money is on the TASC to bring home the bacon.
Took my wife for an overseas vacation recently, and noticed that, after
resetting the iPad I needed to re-enter the login details for the Hiarcs
forum. Well I didn't have the details so while I could still read the
forum I could'nt post until now that I'm back home.
Good to be home, too.
back in my comfort zone regards,
Larry
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PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2013 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Larry wrote:
My money is on the TASC to bring home the bacon.
Took my wife for an overseas vacation recently, and noticed that, after
resetting the iPad I needed to re-enter the login details for the Hiarcs
forum. Well I didn't have the details so while I could still read the
forum I could'nt post until now that I'm back home.
Good to be home, too.
back in my comfort zone regards,
Larry


Welcome back Larry
was wondering where you were
i was beginning to fear the worst
next time you decide to run off for months at a time like that ..joy riding around Europe..please alert every forum member in advance

All Accounted For Regards
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PostPosted: Sat May 18, 2013 1:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In Preparation for the start of Sunday's highly anticipated and much celebrated match of the Millennium ... i put the R30 through its paces against the newly acquired and extremely powerful Excalibur KingMaster III
Strict Match Conditions were observed
As in game one of the match ...R30 took the black pieces

Both Computers were Out Of Book at move 5
After a surprisingly strong opening the KMIII falls prey to a startling R sac by the R30 at move 13
Careful defense was required by white which instead chose to 0-0-0 right
into a crossfire hurricane at move 19
R30 swarms all over the board and eventually announces a forced mate after only 31 moves

[Date "2013.5.17"]
[White "KingMaster III"]
[Black "Tasc R30"]
[Time Control "1Min/.Avg"]
[Result "0-1"]

1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 Bb4 4.e3 O-O 5.Bd2 c5 6.Bd3 d5 7.a3 cxd4 8.axb4
dxc4 9.Bxc4 Qc7 10.Bd3 dxc3 11.bxc3 Rd8 12.Qc2 e5 13.Nf3 Rxd3 14.Qxd3 e4
15.Qe2 exf3 16.Qxf3 Qc4 17.Qf4 Be6 18.Qxc4 Bxc4
19.O-O-O a5 20.Be1 Nc6 21.Kc2 a4 22.Rd2 a3 23.Rd1 Ne5 24.f4 Neg4 25.Bd2
Nf2 26.Ra1 Bd3+ 27.Kb3 N6e4 28.Rhd1 Nxd1 29.Rxd1 a2 30.Kb2 Nxd2 31.Ra1
Nc4+ 32.Kc1 Ra3 33.Kd1


FINAL POSITION


R30 announces a mate in 7 here
i resigned for the KM III

You Cant Touch Dis Regards
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PostPosted: Sat May 18, 2013 1:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm, Excalibur Kingmaster III vs. Tasc R30 is like the latest Game Of Thrones episode where a woman with a wood sword is forced to fight a grizzly bear. Smile
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