Collector's corner : Saitek tournament

Post by **Alain** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 8:55 pm

Hi,

after several months of work in my house, I have now a place to play with my chess computers.

To celebrate this, I "organized" a tournament between my Renaissance boards and modules.

From the left to the right in the above pictures :
Renaissance Sparc

Renaissance without module

Renaissance with Brute Force module

Galileo with Analyst (C on the picture but D++ eproms)

Unfortunately, there was no doubt about the results, here is the cross table :

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Saitek 1 Draveil  2007

                 1  2  3  4  
1   Sparc        ** 11 11 11   6.0/6
2   Brute Force  00 ** 11 11   4.0/6
3   Analyst D++  00 00 ** 11   2.0/6
4   Renaissance  00 00 00 **   0.0/6

Anyway, the games were interesting and the Sparc is really a very entertaining machine ! I don't play good chess enough to publish comments but you can have a look at its games, for example the last game of the tournament.

The games can be viewed and the PGN downloaded from here

Best regards,
Alain

Post by **Steve B** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 1:34 am

Beautiful new additon to your home!

a room JUST for chess computers!

i have notified the Elders and they are seriously considering awarding you the title of CHESS COMPUTER COLLECTOR OF THE YEAR 2007!

and i notice that with these special shelves you do not even need the original boxes!

I think you must now lose the title of Semi-collector for good!

and now you can hold your Paris 08 Tournament right in your own home

Well Done Regards
Steve

Post by **Alain** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 7:39 am

Hi Steve,

Steve B wrote:a room JUST for chess computers!

In fact the root itself is shared with my wife who as a desk too, but the shelves are fully dedicated to my machines and that's a great novelty for me : before that, I had to share a huge table with the Lego of my youngest son and it was risky to leave large&precious computers out for several days.

and i notice that with these special shelves you do not even need the original boxes!

There is a huge advantage for the shelves against the boxes : the time it takes to have a computer setup for a game.
I have played more games against my wooden board in the last three weeks than in the last six months (on the other hand I haven't played a game agaist a platic computer in these three weeks) ;

Best regards,
Alain

Wardy · Post by **Wardy** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 8:19 am

Beautiful computers! I'm still searching for my first proper Renaissance

I found one on ebay a couple of years ago but the guy posted it wrapped only in a bin liner...........needless to say it didn't survive the Royal Mail very well at all.

Still haven't found what I'm looking for regards

Paul

Post by **Steve B** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 12:28 am

Wardy wrote:Beautiful computers! I'm still searching for my first proper Renaissance I found one on ebay a couple of years ago but the guy posted it wrapped only in a bin liner...........needless to say it didn't survive the Royal Mail very well at all.

Still haven't found what I'm looking for regards

Paul

hi Paul

http://cgi.ebay.com/CHESS-COMPUTER-SAIT ... 0185989183

i know the seller very well
highly reliable

Sparc Regards
Steve

m0nkee1 · Post by **m0nkee1** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 5:09 pm

Hi Thanks for the Sitek tournament

Great games the Spark qives the Renaissance quite a kicking....

Just noticed the Spark is a Spracklen progamme - think it's the stongest they released and only the one for saitek? - Renaissance is a Morsch -I like his programmes a lot. but it takes a kicking here...

The spark plays beautifully - from 10 f4 every move it makes is a counter attack - I can't see it take any pieces of prize - just attacks the oppenent instead and always comes of better... I've tried this sort of trickery against Morsh prgrammes and always loose they are very good tactically- (even when i cheat!) the spark must be formidable.

Very intersting i really want a Spracklen Computer now - are there any good semi - affordable ones to look out for?

Simon

Simon

Wardy · Post by **Wardy** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 8:03 pm

I thought the basic Renaissance was a Kaplan program as shared with the Prisma?

Am I wrong regards?

Paul

Post by **Alain** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 8:10 pm

Yes, I also think that it is Kaplan program.
Renaissance is cool :
1) it is the most beautiful board
2) without module, I can beat it

3) and with the Sparc module, it plays really nice (and strong) games to watch

Best regards,
Alain

Post by **Steve B** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 8:10 pm

Wardy wrote:I thought the basic Renaissance was a Kaplan program as shared with the Prisma?

Am I wrong regards?

Paul

your not wrong Paul
Ren board with no module is ..
Kaplan regards
Steve

Post by **Alain** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 8:27 pm

Round 1 :
[fen]r2k1b1r/pp3Qpp/3q1n2/4p1N1/1p2P1b1/4B3/PP4PP/3RK2R w K - 0 17[/fen]
Sparc vs Renaissance after 16 moves

Round 4 :
[fen]rn2kb2/pp3p1p/2p2p2/4p3/8/3KBP2/PPP2P1P/2R5 b q - 0 16[/fen]
D++ vs Sparc after 16 moves

Round 6 :
[fen]r1b1n1k1/p2q1pp1/Pp1P3p/2p5/5Q2/2B3P1/1P3PBP/R5K1 b - - 0 24[/fen]
Sparc vs Brute Force after 23 moves

Have a look at these two games on my site (link in the first post of this thread)... I have so far played two games with my TM on schachcomputer.info, the TM won both... but it was boring

Sparc games are never boring !

Best regards,
Alain

spacious_mind · Post by **spacious_mind** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:42 am

Alain wrote: Have a look at these two games on my site (link in the first post of this thread)... I have so far played two games with my TM on schachcomputer.info, the TM won both... but it was boring Sparc games are never boring !

Best regards,
Alain

Beautiful computers Alain !!

Your TM has had a strong start and a strong win against CM ! boring or not it wins

Good luck in your other games.

All the best

Post by **Fernando** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 1:48 am

Steve B wrote:Beautiful new additon to your home!

a room JUST for chess computers!

i have notified the Elders and they are seriously considering awarding you the title of CHESS COMPUTER COLLECTOR OF THE YEAR 2007![/color

what is this??????
and me?????
I have bought Two computersa for me and I still do not receive any acclamation?

Very disappointed regards
Fernando

and i notice that with these special shelves you do not even need the original boxes!

I think you must now lose the title of Semi-collector for good!

and now you can hold your Paris 08 Tournament right in your own home

Well Done Regards
Steve

Post by **Steve B** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 2:16 am

Fernando wrote:
what is this??????
and me?????
I have bought Two computersa for me and I still do not receive any acclamation?

Very disappointed regards
Fernando

i have already discussed you with the Elders
they will consider you for collector of the year in one and only one case..

if you in your powerful role as Captain...

Toss The Game Regards
Steve

Robert Weck · Post by **Robert Weck** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 9:58 am

Wardy wrote:I thought the basic Renaissance was a Kaplan program as shared with the Prisma?

Am I wrong regards?

Paul

a while ago, somebody (Otto A.(?)) wrote, that it should be the program of the Turbo S24-K running with 10 MHz.

The strength seems to match and both have 32 levels, so it could be true.

The Prisma program shoud be too strong...

regards,
Robert

Wardy · Post by **Wardy** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 10:42 am

Not sure Robert, Selective Search shows the Prisma, Blitz and Renaissance basic as all being 1730elo.

Given the Prisma shares the display and functionality I always assumed that a large amount of the hardware and software was shared between the two.

Confused again regards

Paul

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