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Fidelity World Champion Challenger

 
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Larry
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 8:21 am    Post subject: Fidelity World Champion Challenger Reply with quote



A crying shame that models like this were never released. A limited
production run of just a few hundred units would make them even
more sought after. This one is an attractive looking machine with it's
dark backplate, and was to be clocked at 3mhz, up from the standard
2mhz of the Voice Champion. Don't know if it would have had the
later Prestige program or not. Here is the text from the article,
translated from Dutch via Google translator:
Fidelity World Champion Sensory Chess Challenger
( Model : WCC - November 1981 )
never released! - Nie veröffentlicht !
After this tournament Fidelity wanted as quickly as possible a commercial
put chess computer with increased CPU speed to market . According to the brochure
this
World Champion Sensory Chess Challenger
50% faster than the 1981 in September
published
Champion Sensory Chess Challenger
, Which therefore means that the faster version
3 MHz should run . That 's always one MHz slower than the
Elite Sensory Chess
Challenger
. If you pay close attention to the details, we see a double row of controls ( ! )
along the sensor chess , and a World Cup with the words ' world champion ' next to the LED
display. Unfortunately, this model has never appeared and remained only a prototype ! !

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Larry,

I also believe that the first world champion chess machine was never released for sale.

http://www.hiarcs.net/forums/viewtopic.php?p=61030&highlight=#61030
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 4:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ricard60 wrote:
Hi Larry,

I also believe that the first world champion chess machine was never released for sale.

http://www.hiarcs.net/forums/viewtopic.php?p=61030&highlight=#61030


Thanks for that, Ricardo. To me it's frustrating to know of a few
that were never released, we will never get the feel of playing against
them. Fidelity had a couple of Designer style machines, strong ones,
that never made it to market. My question is, does someone out there
have possession of that Fidelity World Champion prototype?
Same with this one?...
http://www.schach-computer.info/wiki/index.php/Fidelity_Master_2400

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 7:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Larry,

Maybe somebody has the prototype of the Computer used during the Championship of Travemunde in 1981. The most mysterious point is the program used during the WCC, the famous program X. Maybe on this point, the webpage of Hein Veldhuis could answer to some of your questions:
http://www.schaakcomputers.nl/hein_veldhuis/database/files/09-1981%20%5BK-0601%5D%20Fidelity%20-%20Chess%20Challenger%20Elite%20Champion%20%28with%20Travemunde%20upgrade%29.pdf

Definitely, the microprocessor was a 65C02 P4 at 5MHz.
In comparison, the Elite Champion (500 exemplars) was released with a shorter program, a shorter library and a microprocessor 65C02 at 4MHz. The amount of memory of the EPROMS was considerably reduced in the commercial model.
It seems that in this time of fierce competition, Fidelity was reluctant to release the WCC program with its original library.
Legend and reality of Fidelity X,
Maurice
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Probably the machine from fidelity that is called champion it was the one that was in the comercial group in the second WCCC in Travemunde.

http://www.schach-computer.info/wiki/index.php/2._WMCCC_Travem%C3%BCnde_1981
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Difficult to know, but comparing the hardware of the Champion Elite Tavemunde Program X (X for eXperimental) with the commercial Champion Elite (sold at 500 exemplars), I found the following differences:
- an increased number of EPROMs: 2 of 32KB; 2 of 64KB; 1 of 16KB;
- a microprocessor 65C02 P4 and
- a clock at 5MHz.
Definitely, not the same computers, not the same programs, not the same library, not the same hardware.
Maurice
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Guys,'


Yes 1 person have the real Fidelity X with a aluminium plate beneath it.
Manfred Velmer from Germany have it ,so far i know

Fidelity X is never released it because of the fear of the concurrent Mephisto
Because of the Library, they did make a real "killer" book and did not want that Meph. buy the commercial one and look into the book.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 9:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sargon1972 wrote:





Because of the Library, they did make a real "killer" book and did not want that Meph. buy the commercial one and look into the book.


I did read that with white it would start each game with 1.e4
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Larry,

Yes u are correct Laughing always e4 with white
Because of never release it ,at that moment Fidelity was ahead of the concurrent,and far

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