World Computer Chess Championship 2015

ricard60 · Post by **ricard60** » Thu Jul 02, 2015 11:37 pm

Jony has 2400 cores, i wonder what would be its performance with 28 cores?

Hardware and not software regards
Ricardo

RadioSmall · Post by **RadioSmall** » Fri Jul 03, 2015 1:53 am

Carl Bicknell wrote:
RadioSmall wrote: Your are completely wrong on this issue ....I emphasize it has nothing to do with opening book.........All this shows it the huge hyperbole that surrounds programs like Stockfish and Komodo ..... In the very ignorant talk chess forum people blindly assume everything must lose to Komodo and SF ... Hopefully this REAL WorldChampionship will be a Huge wakeup call for them........
NO ONE is claiming "everything must lose to SF or Komodo". But we know its elo, and therefore we know its one of the favourites if all other factors below are equal.

There are a variety of things which affect the outcome of any tournament:
a) The number of games played (the lower the more variance)
b) The strength of the engine
c) the speed of the hardware
d) the opening book

To say the opening book has NOTHING to do with it is crazy - the HIARCS team THEMSELVES sell opening books precisely because they DO add elo and affect the outcome of games!!

You misunderstand what computer chess is all about ...Nobody said that a very good opening book does not have any effect on Elo ....But most of the strength increases in recent years (or decades I should say now) is due to software improvement ...In particular the game Komodo lost to Jonny is not because of an opening book which is not optimal ...We see this overemphasis on opening books in all your posts.......

Carl Bicknell · Post by **Carl Bicknell** » Fri Jul 03, 2015 7:31 am

RadioSmall wrote: You misunderstand what computer chess is all about ...Nobody said that a very good opening book does not have any effect on Elo

Actually you did. Above you said "I emphasize it has nothing to do with opening book"

RadioSmall wrote: But most of the strength increases in recent years (or decades I should say now) is due to software improvement ...In particular the game Komodo lost to Jonny is not because of an opening book which is not optimal

I'm not disagreeing with this. But the opening book is A factor - it didn't cause the loss against Jonny, but it didn't get it into a good position either.

RadioSmall wrote: We see this overemphasis on opening books in all your posts.......

eh? I've only made a few posts on the subject of opening books and most of those were in response to you.
It's not an over-emphasis, it's just to say the opening book does count for SOMETHING. And, in my opinion, Komodo's could have been better.

Post by **Mark Uniacke** » Fri Jul 03, 2015 6:26 pm

Congratulations to Johannes Zwanzger on winning the World Computer Chess Championship with his program Jonny.

Jonny has been steadily improving at each WCCC and proved superior in Leiden this year.

Post by **Fernando** » Fri Jul 03, 2015 6:32 pm

Mark Uniacke wrote:Congratulations to Johannes Zwanzger on winning the World Computer Chess Championship with his program Jonny.

Jonny has been steadily improving at each WCCC and proved superior in Leiden this year.

So it is just a matter to purchase 2400 cores and you enjoy it...

Fern

mclane · Post by **mclane** » Fri Jul 03, 2015 9:35 pm

I have heard there is a uniform tournament too. There the software has not 2400 cores. How is this done ?

ricard60 · Post by **ricard60** » Sat Jul 04, 2015 1:04 am

On the Architecture it is written that Jonny runs on a AMD x86-64, are these virtual cores?

https://icga.leidenuniv.nl/?page_id=1260

IanO · Post by **IanO** » Sat Jul 04, 2015 7:15 am

What is the URL for the WCSC live PGN? The link on the page now just brings up the fullscreen player, and the old link still is just the last round of the WCCC.

Post by **Harvey Williamson** » Sat Jul 04, 2015 7:18 am

IanO wrote:What is the URL for the WCSC live PGN? The link on the page now just brings up the fullscreen player, and the old link still is just the last round of the WCCC.

It is the same url and should be working now.

IanO · Post by **IanO** » Sat Jul 04, 2015 7:23 am

Harvey Williamson wrote:
IanO wrote:What is the URL for the WCSC live PGN? The link on the page now just brings up the fullscreen player, and the old link still is just the last round of the WCCC.
It is the same url and should be working now.

Just checked, and no, it isn't.

Post by **Harvey Williamson** » Sat Jul 04, 2015 7:25 am

IanO wrote:
Harvey Williamson wrote:
IanO wrote:What is the URL for the WCSC live PGN? The link on the page now just brings up the fullscreen player, and the old link still is just the last round of the WCCC.
It is the same url and should be working now.
Just checked, and no, it isn't.

They are fixing it so keep refreshing.

IanO · Post by **IanO** » Sat Jul 04, 2015 7:30 am

Harvey Williamson wrote:They are fixing it so keep refreshing.

Updating now! Best wishes to the HIARCS team! For reference:

http://toernooien.krabbenbos.org/WCCC15/games.pgn

TC is 45+15? And for posterity, what is the uniform platform this year?

Post by **Harvey Williamson** » Sat Jul 04, 2015 7:36 am

IanO wrote:
Harvey Williamson wrote:They are fixing it so keep refreshing.
Updating now! Best wishes to the HIARCS team! For reference:

http://toernooien.krabbenbos.org/WCCC15/games.pgn

TC is 45+15? And for posterity, what is the uniform platform this year?

i7 with 4 cores or 8 with ht

Post by **Steve B** » Sat Jul 04, 2015 8:20 am

Now The REAL Championship Begins!

2011 2013

2015 Regards
Steve

mclane · Post by **mclane** » Sat Jul 04, 2015 8:58 am

Art least it is on equal hardware.