Spracklen Mail Address

mclane · Post by **mclane** » Mon Jun 15, 2015 10:33 pm

Cool. We should invite them into this forum to talk about fidelity and Nelson !

Post by **Fernando** » Mon Jun 15, 2015 10:46 pm

mclane wrote:Cool. We should invite them into this forum to talk about fidelity and Nelson !

That is what I want to do. I have even already written in my mind the mail to invite him without making him felt bored, harassed, etc.

Fern

mclane · Post by **mclane** » Mon Jun 15, 2015 11:15 pm

Very good. I am sure we could ask many interesting questions concerning the development of their baby, e,g, what happened with the sparc module ...

Post by **Fernando** » Tue Jun 16, 2015 3:22 pm

mclane wrote:Very good. I am sure we could ask many interesting questions concerning the development of their baby, e,g, what happened with the sparc module ...

...and even more, if they could port that sparc module to uci engine, for a price of curse. I would run to get it even if they ask 5 bucks....

Generous regards
Fern

Bryan Whitby · Post by **Bryan Whitby** » Tue Jun 16, 2015 7:20 pm

Fern

If you did asked them about the SPARC module then I think you would probably get the same response as Ruud Martin got when he asked them if he could use the Fidelity programs for his Revelation.
They told him that they thought their Fidelity programs now belong to Mad Catz.

Bryan

Post by **Fernando** » Tue Jun 16, 2015 7:22 pm

Chessmaster Ireland wrote:Fern

If you did asked them about the SPARC module then I think you would probably get the same response as Ruud Martin got when he asked them if he could use the Fidelity programs for his Revalation.
They told him that they thought their Fidelity programs now belong to Mad Catz.

Bryan

Mad Catz? What a heck is that?

Bryan Whitby · Post by **Bryan Whitby** » Tue Jun 16, 2015 7:33 pm

Saitek is part of their portfolio.

Post by **Fernando** » Tue Jun 16, 2015 7:40 pm

Chessmaster Ireland wrote:Saitek is part of their portfolio.

It is VERY probable that they does not even know they have those codes kept in a drawer or vault, in a database or who knows where. The chess comm. should contact that people and let them see the markets oportunities of doing what I say...a UCI translation.

Never lose hope regards
Fern

mclane · Post by **mclane** » Tue Jun 16, 2015 7:45 pm

maybe they still have the rights for SARGON pc software.

whatever-

here an interesting game:

Spracklen versus Nelson

[Event "40/120, Oldie-Turnier"]
[Site "SCW"]
[Date "2015.06.16"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Excalibur Igor 24mhz"]
[Black "Fidelity Avantgarde v9"]
[ECO "E12"]
[Result "0-1"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nf3 b6 4. a3 Ba6 5. Qc2 d5 6. cxd5
exd5 7. Nc3 c6 8. e4 Bxf1 9. Rxf1 dxe4 10. Nxe4 Qe7
11. Nfd2 h6 12. b4 a5 13. bxa5 Rxa5 14. Rb1 Nxe4 15. Qxe4
Qxe4+ 16. Nxe4 Nd7 17. Rb3 Rd5 18. Bb2 Be7 19. Ke2 O-O
20. Rc1 f5 21. Nd2 Re8 22. Re3 f4 23. Re4 Nf6 24. Re6 Rb5
25. Ba1 Rh5 26. Rcxc6 Rxh2 27. Kf3 Nh7 28. Ne4 Nf8 29. Re5
Nd7 30. Rd5 Nf8 31. Rxb6 Bxa3 32. Rf5 Rh1 33. Bc3 Rd1
34. Re5 Rc8 35. Rb3 Bc1 36. Re7 Ng6 37. Reb7 Rd3+ 38. Ke2
f3+ 39. Kxd3 fxg2 40. Nd6 Rxc3+ 41. Rxc3 g1=Q 42. Rcc7 0-1

Igor nearly won !! Of course the 68030 was able to turn the game.
but respect, in its unconventional playing style,
nelsons program was able to get a good position against the spracklen
monster.

Post by **Fernando** » Tue Jun 16, 2015 7:48 pm

mclane wrote:maybe they still have the rights for SARGON pc software.

whatever-

here an interesting game:

Spracklen versus Nelson

[Event "40/120, Oldie-Turnier"]
[Site "SCW"]
[Date "2015.06.16"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Excalibur Igor 24mhz"]
[Black "Fidelity Avantgarde v9"]
[ECO "E12"]
[Result "0-1"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nf3 b6 4. a3 Ba6 5. Qc2 d5 6. cxd5
exd5 7. Nc3 c6 8. e4 Bxf1 9. Rxf1 dxe4 10. Nxe4 Qe7
11. Nfd2 h6 12. b4 a5 13. bxa5 Rxa5 14. Rb1 Nxe4 15. Qxe4
Qxe4+ 16. Nxe4 Nd7 17. Rb3 Rd5 18. Bb2 Be7 19. Ke2 O-O
20. Rc1 f5 21. Nd2 Re8 22. Re3 f4 23. Re4 Nf6 24. Re6 Rb5
25. Ba1 Rh5 26. Rcxc6 Rxh2 27. Kf3 Nh7 28. Ne4 Nf8 29. Re5
Nd7 30. Rd5 Nf8 31. Rxb6 Bxa3 32. Rf5 Rh1 33. Bc3 Rd1
34. Re5 Rc8 35. Rb3 Bc1 36. Re7 Ng6 37. Reb7 Rd3+ 38. Ke2
f3+ 39. Kxd3 fxg2 40. Nd6 Rxc3+ 41. Rxc3 g1=Q 42. Rcc7 0-1

Igor nearly won !! Of course the 68030 was able to turn the game.
but respect, in its unconventional playing style,
nelsons program was able to get a good position against the spracklen
monster.

24 mhz!!!!!
How is that possible?

Fern

mclane · Post by **mclane** » Tue Jun 16, 2015 8:43 pm

Its overclocked. The normal speed is 12. Just exchanging the Quartz and that's it. Btw, the avantgarde v9 runs on 33 MHz. That's also not slow.
Btw the game continued and after queens and rooks got exchanged I am not 100 % sure if the piece in favor of avantgarde is enough to win ... I have to play to the technical end, maybe still a draw ?! We will see. Please replay the game and recognize the wired playing style of igor. This style is unique and I know no other program/engine with this rusty style. It reminds me on the dedicated chess computers of the beginning.

It plays as if it has no idea about normal behavior in opening or middle game.
It is not developing the pieces in the normal classical way. Castles late or not.
On the other hand it seems that it comes very deep into the search tree. We have no clue about it because igor is not showing this information during computation.

To me igor plays completely different then Einstein chess wizard or guyla horvaths machines.
Chess wizard evaluates very materialistic and although computing deep
It cannot understand positional stuff. Einstein chess wizard plays as if it only counts material and is not evaluating anything else. Horvath machines on the other hand play very passive and positional.

Igor seems different, although using the pieces in a very strange way, it gets not out computed by others.

Post by **Fernando** » Tue Jun 16, 2015 8:53 pm

mclane wrote:Its overclocked. The normal speed is 12. Just exchanging the Quartz and that's it. Btw, the avantgarde v9 runs on 33 MHz. That's also not slow.
Btw the game continued and after queens and rooks got exchanged I am not 100 % sure if the piece in favor of avantgarde is enough to win ... I have to play to the technical end, maybe still a draw ?! We will see. Please replay the game and recognize the wired playing style of igor. This style is unique and I know no other program/engine with this rusty style. It reminds me on the dedicated chess computers of the beginning.

It plays as if it has no idea about normal behavior in opening or middle game.
It is not developing the pieces in the normal classical way. Castles late or not.
On the other hand it seems that it comes very deep into the search tree. We have no clue about it because igor is not showing this information during computation.

To me igor plays completely different then Einstein chess wizard or guyla horvaths machines.
Chess wizard evaluates very materialistic and although computing deep
It cannot understand positional stuff. Einstein chess wizard plays as if it only counts material and is not evaluating anything else. Horvath machines on the other hand play very passive and positional.

Igor seems different, although using the pieces in a very strange way, it gets not out computed by others.

Just exchanging quartz you say, but how is done?
I would do that to every Excalibur unit I have, say, GM, Alexandra, Ivan and De Luxe...

Karpov 2294, which i have too, is not, in fact, really excalibur but in name only.

mclane · Post by **mclane** » Tue Jun 16, 2015 9:05 pm

The H8 CPUs can be overclocked by replacing the Quartz from 10 or 12 to 24 or 32 MHz.
Of course the over clocking makes only sense if you have a level that can compensate the faster computation. E.g. The igor has level 1 where it computes as long as the opponent is doing.
So when you overclock the clocks runs twice the speed then normal, opponent computes not 3 minutes but 6 minutes, and igor beliefs it should also compute 6 instead of 3 minutes. So you can play 40/120 and igor plays also 40/120 although it believes it computes 40/240. On the internal clock it computes 6 minutes but in fact it is 3'.

Take a look on the pictures here
http://www.schach-computer.info/wiki/in ... libur_Igor
Where I show igor BEFORE and AFTER replacing the Quartz.

You see the tiny silver Quartz with the CQ12 written on it ?
This is how these parts look like. On the next picture I have replaced it with a smaller but faster Quartz.

Some h8 (not all) run without changing voltage on 32. Some only 24.

Post by **Steve B** » Tue Jun 16, 2015 9:45 pm

Fernando wrote:

Just exchanging quartz you say, but how is done?
I would do that to every Excalibur unit I have, say, GM, Alexandra, Ivan and De Luxe...

You Might as well modify all of the computers you have
When you received the Septennial there was an implicit warranty on your part that you would NEVER even consider to modify any chess computer in your possession
this warranty has now been broken

before shipping the Septennial to you it was secretlly outfitted with the latest surveillance equipment and the Elders have been monitering the going's on in your home on a constant 24/7 365 basis
it has also been equipped with plastic explosives
once the cameras pick up any modifying activity on your part it will self destruct

I Spy Regards
Steve

Post by **Fernando** » Tue Jun 16, 2015 9:53 pm

Steve B wrote:
Fernando wrote:

Just exchanging quartz you say, but how is done?
I would do that to every Excalibur unit I have, say, GM, Alexandra, Ivan and De Luxe...
You Might as well modify all of the computers you have
When you received the Septennial there was an implicit warranty on your part that you would NEVER even consider to modify any chess computer in your possession
this warranty has now been broken

before shipping the Septennial to you it was secretlly outfitted with the latest surveillance equipment and the Elders have been monitering the going's on in your home on a constant 24/7 365 basis
it has also been equipped with plastic explosives
once the cameras pick up any modifying activity on your part it will self destruct

I Spy Regards
Steve

Well, Steven, my sayings are purely rhetorical as much I would be incapable of even unscrew the bloody thing if i ever wanted to do it. I scarcely am capable of changing a burned bulb or use the broom.
Septennial, you can tell the Elders, will keep his nature to the day of his or my death, the first thing to happen.

Explicative regards
Fern