Septennial Great Weakness is...

Post by **Fernando** » Fri Jun 12, 2015 11:29 pm

spacious_mind wrote:
Fernando wrote:
spacious_mind wrote:
Fernando wrote:
Steve B wrote:[fen]rn1q1rk1/4bppp/p7/1p1bp3/8/PN2BP2/1PP1B1PP/R1Q2RK1 w - - 0 14[/fen]
Yeah....
after Rd1 black has nothing to do to avoid the c pawn, then the bishop..
Weird....
What did Black play from that position? You mentioned Queen Pawn?
I believe he moved the Night, but it is indifferent. No matter what moves, he lose the bishop. It is what happened.
No it is not? Nd7 or Qc7 is perfectly playable for Black?

NO. The position you see is before my movement. White play here, not black...

spacious_mind · Post by **spacious_mind** » Fri Jun 12, 2015 11:33 pm

Fernando wrote:
spacious_mind wrote:
Fernando wrote:
spacious_mind wrote:
Fernando wrote:
Steve B wrote:[fen]rn1q1rk1/4bppp/p7/1p1bp3/8/PN2BP2/1PP1B1PP/R1Q2RK1 w - - 0 14[/fen]
Yeah....
after Rd1 black has nothing to do to avoid the c pawn, then the bishop..
Weird....
What did Black play from that position? You mentioned Queen Pawn?
I believe he moved the Night, but it is indifferent. No matter what moves, he lose the bishop. It is what happened.
No it is not? Nd7 or Qc7 is perfectly playable for Black?
NO. The position you see is before my movement. White play here, not black...

LOL did you cheat and play two white moves??

Post by **Steve B** » Fri Jun 12, 2015 11:35 pm

Fernando wrote:
spacious_mind wrote:
Fernando wrote:
spacious_mind wrote:
Fernando wrote:
Steve B wrote:[fen]rn1q1rk1/4bppp/p7/1p1bp3/8/PN2BP2/1PP1B1PP/R1Q2RK1 w - - 0 14[/fen]
Yeah....
after Rd1 black has nothing to do to avoid the c pawn, then the bishop..
Weird....
What did Black play from that position? You mentioned Queen Pawn?
I believe he moved the Night, but it is indifferent. No matter what moves, he lose the bishop. It is what happened.
No it is not? Nd7 or Qc7 is perfectly playable for Black?
NO. The position you see is before my movement. White play here, not black...

here are the moves you wrote
e4 c5
Nf3 d6
d4 pxp
nxp nf6
Nc3 a6
Be2 e5
Nb3 Be7
0-0 0-0
Be3 b5
a3 Bb7
f3 d5
pxp Nxp
NxN BxN
Qc1.....

your last move was Qc1 making room for the R to go to D1
it is black to move

Fernando wrote:
BUT...
I have enough memoru to replay a game 45 yaers old.
Now, this one wnet this way:

Uh Huh Regards
Steve

spacious_mind · Post by **spacious_mind** » Fri Jun 12, 2015 11:47 pm

Fernando,

Come back we love you!! You have us all waiting in suspense!

spacious_mind · Post by **spacious_mind** » Fri Jun 12, 2015 11:56 pm

Steve,

What time is it in New York. It is starting to get late here in Alabama.

Post by **Fernando** » Sat Jun 13, 2015 12:05 am

spacious_mind wrote:Steve,

What time is it in New York. It is starting to get late here in Alabama.

Same time as in my curty, santiago. Or similar. 21.07

spacious_mind · Post by **spacious_mind** » Sat Jun 13, 2015 12:08 am

Fernando wrote:
spacious_mind wrote:Steve,

What time is it in New York. It is starting to get late here in Alabama.
Same time as in my curty, santiago. Or similar. 21.07

Really Santiago is only 1 hour ahead of central time? I am used to Brazil being about 3 hours ahead. I thought you might be 2 compared to central time.

Post by **Fernando** » Sat Jun 13, 2015 12:10 am

spacious_mind wrote:
Fernando wrote:
spacious_mind wrote:Steve,

What time is it in New York. It is starting to get late here in Alabama.
Same time as in my curty, santiago. Or similar. 21.07
Really Santiago is only 1 hour ahead of central time? I am used to Brazil being about 3 hours ahead. I thought you might be 2 compared to central time.

For several reasons this year the hour was not changed. Not anymore summer and winter hours.
Now we wake up in a "morning" that is still almost night.

Creepy to get my shower in darkness regards
Fern

Post by **Steve B** » Sat Jun 13, 2015 12:12 am

Fernando wrote:
spacious_mind wrote:
Fernando wrote:
spacious_mind wrote:Steve,

What time is it in New York. It is starting to get late here in Alabama.
Same time as in my curty, santiago. Or similar. 21.07
Really Santiago is only 1 hour ahead of central time? I am used to Brazil being about 3 hours ahead. I thought you might be 2 compared to central time.
For several reasons this year the hour was not changed. Not anymore summer and winter hours.
Now we wake up in a "morning" that is still almost night.

Creepy to get my shower in darkness regards
Fern

When ever your ready to give the correct moves and position Fern..

Septennial Locked And Loaded Regards
Steve

spacious_mind · Post by **spacious_mind** » Sat Jun 13, 2015 12:12 am

Fernando wrote:
spacious_mind wrote:
Fernando wrote:
spacious_mind wrote:Steve,

What time is it in New York. It is starting to get late here in Alabama.
Same time as in my curty, santiago. Or similar. 21.07
Really Santiago is only 1 hour ahead of central time? I am used to Brazil being about 3 hours ahead. I thought you might be 2 compared to central time.
For several reasons this year the hour was not changed. Not anymore summer and winter hours.
Now we wake up in a "morning" that is still almost night.

Creepy to get my shower in darkness regards
Fern

Yes I remember Brazil being extreme sometime 2 hours and sometimes 4 hours time difference. But I have not been for about 6 years. Things change I am sure.

Regards

Post by **Fernando** » Sat Jun 13, 2015 12:14 am

Steve B wrote:
Fernando wrote:
spacious_mind wrote:
Fernando wrote:
spacious_mind wrote:Steve,

What time is it in New York. It is starting to get late here in Alabama.
Same time as in my curty, santiago. Or similar. 21.07
Really Santiago is only 1 hour ahead of central time? I am used to Brazil being about 3 hours ahead. I thought you might be 2 compared to central time.
For several reasons this year the hour was not changed. Not anymore summer and winter hours.
Now we wake up in a "morning" that is still almost night.

Creepy to get my shower in darkness regards
Fern
When ever your ready to give the correct moves and position Fern..

Septennial Locked And Loaded Regards
Steve

Not enough what youi already have?

startling regards
Fern

Post by **Steve B** » Sat Jun 13, 2015 12:36 am

Fernando wrote:
Steve B wrote:
Fernando wrote:
spacious_mind wrote:
Fernando wrote:
spacious_mind wrote:Steve,

What time is it in New York. It is starting to get late here in Alabama.
Same time as in my curty, santiago. Or similar. 21.07
Really Santiago is only 1 hour ahead of central time? I am used to Brazil being about 3 hours ahead. I thought you might be 2 compared to central time.
For several reasons this year the hour was not changed. Not anymore summer and winter hours.
Now we wake up in a "morning" that is still almost night.

Creepy to get my shower in darkness regards
Fern
When ever your ready to give the correct moves and position Fern..

Septennial Locked And Loaded Regards
Steve
Not enough what youi already have?

startling regards
Fern

Fern the moves you have written are wrong
it is black to move
please read the above posts
Goodnight Regards
Steve

Post by **Fernando** » Sat Jun 13, 2015 2:26 am

Steve B wrote:
Fernando wrote:
Steve B wrote:
Fernando wrote:
spacious_mind wrote:
Fernando wrote:
spacious_mind wrote:Steve,

What time is it in New York. It is starting to get late here in Alabama.
Same time as in my curty, santiago. Or similar. 21.07
Really Santiago is only 1 hour ahead of central time? I am used to Brazil being about 3 hours ahead. I thought you might be 2 compared to central time.
For several reasons this year the hour was not changed. Not anymore summer and winter hours.
Now we wake up in a "morning" that is still almost night.

Creepy to get my shower in darkness regards
Fern
When ever your ready to give the correct moves and position Fern..

Septennial Locked And Loaded Regards
Steve
Not enough what youi already have?

startling regards
Fern
Fern the moves you have written are wrong
it is black to move
please read the above posts
Goodnight Regards
Steve

Maybe maybe, but the position is the right one. You can set yout septennial to that and see what happens.

Fern

Post by **Steve B** » Sat Jun 13, 2015 9:53 am

Fernando wrote:
You can set yout septennial to that and see what happens.

Fern

[fen]rn1q1rk1/4bppp/p7/1p1bp3/8/PN2BP2/1PP1B1PP/R1Q2RK1 w - - 0 14[/fen]

In This position Septennial (3Min./Avg.)will play
14..Nc6
a perfectly reasonable move

i made your move
15.Rd1
and it plays 15..Rc8
another perfectly reasonable move which does not loose the B to a Pin
it scores the position +.15

Sorry Fern but there is no pin bug here

Falsely Accused Regards
Steve

Post by **Fernando** » Sat Jun 13, 2015 3:43 pm

Well, that means simply that my memory of the game failed, but it is a FACT that Septennial lost a game because of a pin in a position like that.

My testimony is right no matter what regards
Fern