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Yarc wrote:
Yarc wrote:
paulwise3 wrote:Hi Yarc,

Thanx for your report! I hope you will share the moves of game 8 with us, will be interesting to see how other programs/machines judge the positions ;-)

Curious regards,
Paul
I certainly will. Next couple of days are busy for me again, but hopefully should get to complete this match soon and will publish all games.

I think it's interesting watching these machines play, especially as they all suffer from the horizon effect. This introduces surprises in the games and makes them all the more fun to watch.

After this match I may try a match at the same time control against the Magellan. This machine might pose more of a stumbling block, especially considering the Cosmos did surprisingly well against the MCG.
Playing game 9 of 10 and SD currently has the edge in this game based on both machine's analysis! The advantage is about one pawn, and I know it could change because these machines can make mistakes. It's still possible for the SD to win the match, but theoretically the MCG should win with its higher ELO. It's close as expected which means the SD is a good machine and despite the extra processing power of the MCG, the SD must have a fairly decent program.
Well, the SD trounced the MCG. I resigned on behalf of MCG after 41 moves. There was no hope. Score now is 4.5 each. I think it's true that many machines play their best at tournament time controls. The SD is certainly showing its ability in this match.

So now it's all down to the last game as it was in the match against the Cosmos.

Will play the last game soon.
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Chessmaster Ireland wrote:Looks like details of the new Millennium ChessGenius Pro will be announced on the 1st July.
Very exciting news. I don't have a problem with a Lang update. I'm hoping the board is more user friendly than the original ChessGenius, with a sensor & LED on each square (or at least 16 LEDs) or ideally an auto-sensory board! Made of wood? Maybe too much to ask for. :D

Waiting for July 1st...regards,
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Hi Dave
I've worked with Richard for many years on his mobile software and even visited his home but when I asked him recently about the new model he unfortunately advised me that he was legally bound not to reveal any details about the new chess computer.
Hopefully Millennium will announce details in July if testing has gone to plan.
BTW...I was approached to beta test it but couldn't accommodate the amount of time requested plus beta testing becomes very tedious after a while, I have better things to do in my retirement.
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Hello Guys ,

Yes testing cost a lot of time indeed , i am testing now for several time the new Millennium computer
Also i can not say anything about it .
But i like doing it ,that can i say :lol:

Kr,Hans
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I am from Netherlands and many years involved with computerchess
It,s a way of life i suppose :p

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Chessmaster Ireland wrote:Hi Dave
I've worked with Richard for many years on his mobile software and even visited his home but when I asked him recently about the new model he unfortunately advised me that he was legally bound not to reveal any details about the new chess computer.
Hopefully Millennium will announce details in July if testing has gone to plan.
BTW...I was approached to beta test it but couldn't accommodate the amount of time requested plus beta testing becomes very tedious after a while, I have better things to do in my retirement.
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I need to know whether the physical design will change, but know you can't say anything. So if the design is going to change, please wink with your right eye.

Spy Games Regards,
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Dave
If you don't like the up and coming new Millennium CG Pro then I could always build you one of my full size autosensory Gavon/Solus boards :D

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Beautiful board Bryan. Get the MCG boys to use it!
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Hans
Without giving any commercial information, can you say how long have you got before your testing is finished?
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Finally completed the 10 game match between the Millenium Chess Genius and Star Diamond at 40 moves in 2 hours. After an initial number of successive wins for the MCG the SD fought back and drew level at game 9! So it was all down to the last game, as it was in the match against the Cosmos. In this case the MCG managed to win by beating the Cosmos in the final game.

How well has the MCG done against the SD?

The SD totally outplayed the MCG again! So it is a victory for the SD. I know, 10 games is not enough to get a true idea of ELO, but what it does show is that the MCG has not faired as well as I might have expected considering its hardware. Both the SD and Cosmos are running on much slower systems, particularly in the case of the Comos with an 8-bit processor running at 10Mhz. The SD has a 16-bit processor running at 25Mhz. Both slower than the MCG's 32-bit processor running at 48Mhz. Maybe the MCG is not so good at the longer time controls whereas the SD excels,

I will now publish the games as promised in separate posts...
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Game 1 of 10 between SD and MCG

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[Event "40 moves in 120 minutes"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2016.02.09"]
[Round "1"]
[White "MCG"]
[Black "SD"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "C45"]

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.d4 exd4 4.Nxd4 Bc5 5.Be3 Qf6 6.c3 Nge7 7.g3 d5 8.Bg2 dxe4 9.Nb5 Bxe3 10.Nxc7+ Kf8 11.O-O Rb8 12.fxe3 Qe5 13.Qb3 Bf5 14.Nb5 Be6 15.Qa4 Nf5 16.Re1 Qc5 17.Nd4 Qd5 18.Nd2 Nfxd4 19.cxd4 f5 20.Rf1 Kg8 21.Rac1 g6 22.a3 Rd8 23.Rc5 Qxc5 24.dxc5 Rxd2 25.Qb5 Rd7 26.Ra1 Kg7 27.g4 Rhd8 28.gxf5 gxf5 29.Rf1 Kh8 30.h4 Rg7 31.h5 Rd3 32.h6 Rgd7 33.Qa4 Rxe3 34.Qc2 Nd4 35.Qa4 a6 36.Rd1 Rd3 37.Rxd3 exd3 38.Bd5 Ne2+ 39.Kh2 Rxd5 40.Qe8+ Bg8 41.Qe7 Bf7 42.Qxf7 Rxc5 43.Qe8# 1-0

[fen]4Q2k/1p5p/p6P/2r2p2/8/P2p4/1P2n2K/8 b - - 1 43[/fen]

First game to MCG in just 43 moves.
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Game 2 of the match between MCG and SD

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Game 2 of the match between MCG and SD

[Event "40 moves in 120 minutes"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2016.02.10"]
[Round "2"]
[White "SD"]
[Black "MCG"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "A32"]

1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 c5 3.Nf3 cxd4 4.Nxd4 e6 5.Nc3 Bb4 6.Nb5 d6 7.Bf4 e5 8.Bg5 a6 9.Qa4 Nc6 10.c5 Bxc5 11.Nd5 O-O 12.Bxf6 gxf6 13.e3 f5 14.Nbc3 Be6 15.a3 Ne7 16.Nf6+ Kg7 17.Nh5+ Kh6 18.Ng3 f4 19.Bd3 Ng6 20.b4 Bb6 21.Nf1 d5 22.Qc2 fxe3 23.fxe3 Rc8 24.Qd2 Kg7 25.Na4 Ba7 26.Nc3 d4 27.Ne2 f5 28.exd4 Bxd4 29.Rd1 Bb6 30.a4 Qh4+ 31.g3 Qg4 32.h4 f4 33.Nh2 Bf2+ 0-1

[fen]2r2r2/1p4kp/p3b1n1/4p3/PP3pqP/3B2P1/3QNb1N/3RK2R w K - 2 34[/fen]

Game 2 is a devastating win for the MCG in just 33 moves! The SD resigned here.
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Game 3 of the match between MCG and SD

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Game 3 of the match between MCG and SD

[Event "40 moves in 120 minutes"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2016.02.13"]
[Round "3"]
[White "MCG"]
[Black "SD"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "B50"]

1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.c3 Nf6 4.Be2 e6 5.d3 Nc6 6.Bg5 Bd7 7.O-O h6 8.Be3 Qc7 9.Nbd2 O-O-O 10.a3 d5 11.b4 dxe4 12.Nxe4 Nxe4 13.dxe4 Ne5 14.Nd2 h5 15.f4 Ng4 16.Bxg4 hxg4 17.Qxg4 f6 18.Nb3 g5 19.Bxc5 Rh4 20.Qg3 Rxf4 21.Rxf4 gxf4 22.Qg6 b6 23.Bxf8 Rxf8 24.Qg7 Qd6 25.a4 Kd8 26.a5 bxa5 27.Nxa5 Ke8 28.Nb3 a6 29.Nc5 Bc8 30.Qh7 a5 31.Qh5+ Rf7 32.e5 Qd5 33.Rxa5 Qd2 34.Qf3 Qe1+ 35.Qf1 Qe3+ 36.Kh1 Qxe5 37.Qd1 Rc7 38.Na6 Rd7 39.Qxd7+ Bxd7 40.Rxe5 fxe5 41.h4 Ke7 42.Kg1 e4 43.Nc5 Bc6 44.c4 e3 45.b5 e2 46.Kf2 Bxg2 47.b6 Kd6 48.h5 Kxc5 49.h6 Be4 50.h7 Bxh7 51.b7 Bd3 52.b8=Q Bxc4 53.Qe5+ Kc6 54.Qd4 Kb5 55.Qxf4 Kc5 56.Qe4 Kb4 57.Ke1 Kc3 58.Qe3+ Kc2 59.Qh3 e5 60.Qf5+ e4 61.Qxe4+ Kb3 62.Kd2 Kb4 63.Qe5 Ka4 64.Kc3 Bb5 65.Qd4+ Ka5 1-0

[fen]8/8/8/kb6/3Q4/2K5/4p3/8 w - - 9 66[/fen]

Third win in a row for the MCG! I was wondering if this was going to be a whitewash.
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Game 4 of the match between MCG and SD

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Game 4 of the match between MCG and SD

[Event "40 moves in 120 minutes"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2016.02.14"]
[Round "4"]
[White "SD"]
[Black "MCG"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "C92"]

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 4.Ba4 Nf6 5.O-O Be7 6.Re1 b5 7.Bb3 d6 8.c3 O-O 9.h3 Bb7 10.d4 Na5 11.Bc2 Nc6 12.Be3 Qd7 13.Nbd2 exd4 14.cxd4 Nb4 15.Bb1 a5 16.a3 Na6 17.Qc2 d5 18.Bg5 dxe4 19.Nxe4 Bxe4 20.Rxe4 g6 21.Re5 c6 22.Ba2 Kg7 23.Qd2 Ng8 24.Bxe7 Nxe7 25.Rae1 Ng8 26.Qxa5 Nc7 27.Qc3 Nd5 28.Bxd5 cxd5 29.Qd2 Rfc8 30.R5e2 Qd6 31.Ne5 Nf6 32.Qh6+ Kg8 33.Qf4 Ra6 34.Rc1 Rac6 35.Ree1 Kg7 36.Rxc6 Rxc6 37.Qd2 Ra6 38.Ng4 Nxg4 39.hxg4 Ra4 40.Re5 b4 41.axb4 Rxb4 42.Rxd5 Qb8 43.Qe3 Rxb2 44.Qe5+ Qxe5 45.dxe5 h6 46.Rd8 Rb4 47.f3 Rb5 48.Re8 Rb1+ 49.Kh2 Rb2 50.f4 Re2 51.Kg3 Rc2 52.f5 Rc3+ 53.Kf2 Rc2+ 54.Ke3 gxf5 55.gxf5 Rc3+ 56.Kd4 Ra3 57.f6+ Kh7 58.g4 Ra4+ 59.Kd5 Ra5+ 60.Kd6 Ra6+ 61.Ke7 Ra7+ 62.Kf8 Kg6 63.Kg8 Rc7 64.Kh8 Kg5 65.Kg7 Kxg4 66.Re7 Rc2 67.Kxf7 Kf5 68.e6 1-0

[fen]8/4RK2/4PP1p/5k2/8/8/2r5/8 b - - 0 68[/fen]

Finally SD wins a game. I resigned on behalf of the MCG. I wish it was programmed to resign itself!
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Game 5 of the match between MCG and SD

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Game 5 of the match between MCG and SD

[Event "40 moves in 120 minutes"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2016.02.17"]
[Round "5"]
[White "MCG"]
[Black "SD"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "B01"]

1.e4 d5 2.exd5 Nf6 3.Bb5+ Bd7 4.Bc4 Bg4 5.f3 Bc8 6.Nc3 Nbd7 7.d4 Nb6 8.Bb5+ Bd7 9.Bd3 Nbxd5 10.Nxd5 Nxd5 11.Ne2 e6 12.O-O Ba4 13.b3 Bc6 14.Be4 Qd7 15.c4 Nf6 16.Bxc6 Qxc6 17.Bg5 O-O-O 18.a4 Bd6 19.Qd3 Kb8 20.Nc3 Be5 21.Nb5 h6 22.Be3 g5 23.Qe2 Bd6 24.d5 exd5 25.Bxa7+ Kc8 26.Bd4 Bc5 27.Qe3 Nd7 28.Rfc1 Rhe8 29.Qc3 Bxd4+ 30.Qxd4 Qc5 31.cxd5 Qxd4+ 32.Nxd4 Nf6 33.Nf5 Nxd5 34.Nxh6 Nf4 35.Rc2 Re7 36.Nf5 Re5 37.Ng3 Rd3 38.Rac1 Nd5 39.Ne4 Rxb3 40.Nd6+ Kd7 41.Nxf7 Rf5 42.Nh6 Rf4 43.Rd1 c6 44.Ng4 Rxa4 45.Nf6+ Ke6 46.Nxd5 cxd5 47.Rc5 d4 48.Rxg5 d3 49.Rg6+ Ke5 50.Re1+ Kd5 51.Rg7 Ra2 52.h4 d2 53.Rd1 Ke6 54.Kf2 Rb5 55.g4 Rd5 56.Rxb7 Kf6 57.g5+ Kg6 58.Rb6+ Kg7 59.f4 Ra4 60.Ke3 Ra3+ 61.Ke4 Rd7 62.h5 Rh3 63.h6+ Kh7 64.Ke5 Rhd3 65.f5 Rd8 66.Rb7+ Kh8 67.g6 Re8+ 68.Kf6 Red8 69.Ke7 Rg8 70.Rd7 Re3+ 71.Kf7 Rc3 72.R1xd2 Rc5 1-0

[fen]6rk/3R1K2/6PP/2r2P2/8/8/3R4/8 w - - 1 73[/fen]

A longer game of 72 moves, the SD had no chance and resigned.

Score now is 4 to 1 in favour of the MCG.
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Game 6 of the match between MCG and SD

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Game 6 of the match between MCG and SD

[Event "40 moves in 120 minutes"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2016.02.24"]
[Round "6"]
[White "SD"]
[Black "MCG"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "C40"]

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 f5 3.Nxe5 Qf6 4.Nc4 fxe4 5.Nc3 Qf7 6.d4 Bb4 7.Bd2 Nf6 8.Be2 d6 9.O-O Nc6 10.d5 Nxd5 11.Nxe4 O-O 12.Bxb4 Ndxb4 13.a3 Na6 14.Ne3 Qg6 15.Bd3 Kh8 16.Nc5 Qg5 17.Nxa6 bxa6 18.Be4 Bb7 19.Qd5 Qxd5 20.Bxd5 Rab8 21.Rfe1 Ne5 22.Bxb7 Rxb7 23.b3 a5 24.Rad1 a4 25.b4 a5 26.bxa5 Rb5 27.Rd5 Rb2 28.Rd4 Nd7 29.Rxa4 Nc5 30.Rc4 Ra2 31.Rc3 Kg8 32.Nd5 Ra8 33.Nb4 Rb2 34.a6 Ra7 35.Kf1 h6 36.Re7 Kf8 37.Rce3 Kg8 38.Ke2 Nxa6 39.Nxa6 Rxa6 40.Rxc7 Kf8 41.Kd2 Rb5 42.Rf3+ Kg8 43.Rg3 g5 44.Re3 Kf8 45.Rh7 Rd5+ 46.Rd3 Rxd3+ 47.cxd3 Kg8 48.Rxh6 Kg7 49.Rh5 Kg6 50.Rh8 Rxa3 51.Rd8 Ra6 52.Ke2 Kf6 53.Ke3 Ke5 54.Re8+ Kf5 55.Rf8+ Ke6 56.Rg8 Kf5 57.Kd4 Kf6 58.Rf8+ Ke6 59.Re8+ Kf7 60.Re2 Ra5 61.h3 Kf6 62.Ke4 Re5+ 63.Kf3 Rf5+ 64.Ke3 Re5+ 65.Kd2 Rf5 66.d4 Ra5 67.Kd3 Rf5 68.Kc4 Kf7 69.d5 Kg7 70.f3 Kg6 71.Re6+ Rf6 72.Rxf6+ Kxf6 1-0

[fen]8/8/3p1k2/3P2p1/2K5/5P1P/6P1/8 w - - 0 73[/fen]

I resigned on behalf of the MCG as there is no hope. This is the start the the SD's mighty come back showing superior play over the MCG.
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