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It's time to start some tests with Mysticum.

MYSTICUM CHESS COMPUTER - 2011

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My Mysticum is built into a camera case which I found convenient for carrying around. The computer itself is a Wyse Via Nehemiah with 1000 MHz. It has CPUID which is a X86 processor benchmark which allows me to configure the speed of my computer in 50 MHz increments from 500 MHz to 1000 MHz. In addition by using a combination of CPUID and MOSLO after long intensive testing that we did a few years ago, I also have several preset settings that run chess engines through an option selection at approximately the equivalent speeds of:

68020 - 12 MHz
68020 - 20 MHz
68020 - 40 MHz

But I am not limited to the above as I can with testing simulate any speed I want up to 1000 MHz.

The first tests that I want to do though is to play it at it's proper full speed of 1000 MHz.

Mysticum Stockfish 2.2.1 JA - Jan 2012 - Tord Romstad, Marco Costalba & Joona Kiiski

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This tested version of Stockfish came out in January 2012 and was compiled by Jim Ablett hence the JA behind the version.

Mysticum Stockfish 2.2.1 JA Test Result

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Mysticum Stockfish 2.2.1 JA finished with a score of ELO 2980.

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Here are the test results for Mysticum 1000 WChess 1.6.

Mysticum 1000 WCHESS 1.6 - 1994 - DAVID KITTINGER

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This is the UCI version of WChess 1.6 from David Kittinger. WChess 1.6 sensationally scored 5 out of 6 points against Grandmasters in the 1994 Harvard Cup performing at a level of 2895 ELO, drawing against Joel Benjamin and Alex Yermolinsky, while beating Patrick Wolff, Michael Rohde and Alexander Shabalov. However in a playoff against Joel Benjamin it lost by 4 points to 1, drawing 2 games and losing 3.

Novag of course used this result in all their advertising of WChess 1.6. This is however the strongest program that David Kittinger ever wrote. The engine itself was used a lot in later chess learning programs such as Lego Chess, Majestic Chess and Powerchess. The Fritz for Fun or Learn with Fritz series using Chessbase and Frans Morsch seems to be a follower idea based on the Kittinger's success.

MYSTICUM 1000 WCHESS 1.6 TEST RESULT

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WChess 1.6 scored well in this test with a final rating of ELO 2452 which is not bad for a 1994 software program.

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Here is the test result for Mysticum Hiarcs 11.

MYSTICUM 1000 HIARCS 11 - MARK JOHN UNIACKE - 2006

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I played Hiarcs 11 with 64 MB Hash and play style NORMAL with Hyper-Modern Play on.

MYSTICUM 1000 HIARCS 11 - TEST RESULT

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Hiarcs 11 completed the tests with a score of ELO 2758.

MYSTICUM 1000 DEEP SJENG 2010 C'T - GIAN CARLO PASCUTTO - 2010

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Deep Sjeng 2010 c't was also set with 64 MB Hash.

MYSTICUM 1000 DEEP SJENG 2010 C'T = TEST RESULT

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Mysticum 1000 MHz Deep Sjeng 2010 c't completed the tests with a score of ELO 2811.

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Hi Nick

With reference to your statement,

"This is the UCI version of WChess 1.6 from David Kittinger. WChess 1.6 sensationally scored 5 out of 6 points against Grandmasters in the 1994 Harvard Cup performing at a level of 2895 ELO, drawing against Joel Benjamin and Alex Yermolinsky, while beating Patrick Wolff, Michael Rohde and Alexander Shabalov. However in a playoff against Joel Benjamin it lost by 4 points to 1, drawing 2 games and losing 3. Novag of course used this result in all their advertising of WChess 1.6. This is however the strongest program that David Kittinger ever wrote".

Surely, WChess 2000 was the strongest?

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Chessmaster Ireland wrote:Hi Nick

With reference to your statement,

"This is the UCI version of WChess 1.6 from David Kittinger. WChess 1.6 sensationally scored 5 out of 6 points against Grandmasters in the 1994 Harvard Cup performing at a level of 2895 ELO, drawing against Joel Benjamin and Alex Yermolinsky, while beating Patrick Wolff, Michael Rohde and Alexander Shabalov. However in a playoff against Joel Benjamin it lost by 4 points to 1, drawing 2 games and losing 3. Novag of course used this result in all their advertising of WChess 1.6. This is however the strongest program that David Kittinger ever wrote".

Surely, WChess 2000 was the strongest?

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You are right! I had totally forgotten about the existence of WChess 2000.
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Any links for downloads of Wchess?
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lexman wrote:Any links for downloads of Wchess?
Someone created a UCI protocol many years ago for it. I have it on the Mysticum.

Here are some Kittinger's:

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I am not 100% on this one if it is Kittinger but I think it is the 1.6 Version. I have the CD but it is Windows 95 and I need to load it onto a Windows 95 PC sometime to know for sure.

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This one is WChess 1.6 but for Windows 95 from 1996

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This one plays on Windows 95 and 98 and came out in 1998. I have this one working on XP so it might work on later versions of windows as well. This one I also think is WChess 1.6

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This is Majestic Chess from 2003 that has the Kittinger WChess 2000 program. This one is also hard to load on some Windows platforms.

Millennium Chess 2000 also I believe includes WChess2000. I have it but have not loaded it on a computer for a very long time.

Also Lokasoft had it I think in one of their software packages.

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spacious_mind wrote:Here are the test results for Mysticum 1000 WChess 1.6.

Mysticum 1000 WCHESS 1.6 - 1994 - DAVID KITTINGER

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This is the UCI version of WChess 1.6 from David Kittinger. WChess 1.6 sensationally scored 5 out of 6 points against Grandmasters in the 1994 Harvard Cup performing at a level of 2895 ELO, drawing against Joel Benjamin and Alex Yermolinsky, while beating Patrick Wolff, Michael Rohde and Alexander Shabalov. However in a playoff against Joel Benjamin it lost by 4 points to 1, drawing 2 games and losing 3.

Novag of course used this result in all their advertising of WChess 1.6. This is however the strongest program that David Kittinger ever wrote. The engine itself was used a lot in later chess learning programs such as Lego Chess, Majestic Chess and Powerchess. The Fritz for Fun or Learn with Fritz series using Chessbase and Frans Morsch seems to be a follower idea based on the Kittinger's success.

MYSTICUM 1000 WCHESS 1.6 TEST RESULT

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WChess 1.6 scored well in this test with a final rating of ELO 2452 which is not bad for a 1994 software program.

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Hi Nick

Yes an excellent score.
I have just started testing the WChess 2000 engine within the ChessGenius GUI on my laptop. Hopefully will have completed all five tests by the end of the week.

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Chessmaster Ireland wrote: Hi Nick

Yes an excellent score.
I have just started testing the WChess 2000 engine within the ChessGenius GUI on my laptop. Hopefully will have completed all five tests by the end of the week.

Bryan
HI Bryan,

Yes lets see how it scores on your laptop. The Mysticum test with WChess 1.6 was 1 GHz.

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Chessmaster Ireland wrote:
spacious_mind wrote:Here are the test results for Mysticum 1000 WChess 1.6.

Mysticum 1000 WCHESS 1.6 - 1994 - DAVID KITTINGER

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This is the UCI version of WChess 1.6 from David Kittinger. WChess 1.6 sensationally scored 5 out of 6 points against Grandmasters in the 1994 Harvard Cup performing at a level of 2895 ELO, drawing against Joel Benjamin and Alex Yermolinsky, while beating Patrick Wolff, Michael Rohde and Alexander Shabalov. However in a playoff against Joel Benjamin it lost by 4 points to 1, drawing 2 games and losing 3.

Novag of course used this result in all their advertising of WChess 1.6. This is however the strongest program that David Kittinger ever wrote. The engine itself was used a lot in later chess learning programs such as Lego Chess, Majestic Chess and Powerchess. The Fritz for Fun or Learn with Fritz series using Chessbase and Frans Morsch seems to be a follower idea based on the Kittinger's success.

MYSTICUM 1000 WCHESS 1.6 TEST RESULT

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WChess 1.6 scored well in this test with a final rating of ELO 2452 which is not bad for a 1994 software program.

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Hi Nick

Yes an excellent score.
I have just started testing the WChess 2000 engine within the ChessGenius GUI on my laptop. Hopefully will have completed all five tests by the end of the week.

Bryan
Hi Nick

Well the WChess2000 running in the ChessGenius GUI @ 2.4GHz only came a few points higher than your WChess 1.6 @ 1GHz with a combined rating of 2522

Have emailed you the results.

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Chessmaster Ireland wrote: Hi Nick

Well the WChess2000 running in the ChessGenius GUI @ 2.4GHz only came a few points higher than your WChess 1.6 @ 1GHz with a combined rating of 2522

Have emailed you the results.

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Hi Bryan,

The way the rating works as it is based on the combined moves of all 5 tests your WChess2000 test finished with a final score of ELO 2489. Which is 37 ELO better than WChess 1.6 Mhz on Mysticum 1000 MHz. Therefore it is still hard to tell if WChess2000 is actually better than WChess 1.6 :)

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Here is the test result for Chessmaster 11.

MYSTICUM 1000 KING 3.5 - BRUCHA PERSONALITY - JOHAN DE KONNING - 2007

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King 3.5 is the chess engine version that came with Chessmaster 11 The Art of Learning. The Brucha (Witch) personality is something I kept when I used to play around with Chessmaster 9000 many years ago and transfered to Mysticum.

MYSTICUM 1000 KING 2.5 BRUCHA - TEST RESULT

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Mysticum King 3.5 Brucha finished with a score of ELO 2687.

Below is a tournament final table when I had slowed down King 3.5 Brucha to around 8 MIPS to simulate approximately the speed of a 68020 with 40 MHz:

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That was quite an interesting tournament where the final winner was unknown until completion of the last round.

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Hi Nick,

your Mysticum is working again?

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blaubaer wrote:Hi Nick,

your Mysticum is working again?

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Not yet. I am on vacation this week so it won't be until next week.
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spacious_mind wrote:
Chessmaster Ireland wrote: Hi Nick

Well the WChess2000 running in the ChessGenius GUI @ 2.4GHz only came a few points higher than your WChess 1.6 @ 1GHz with a combined rating of 2522

Have emailed you the results.

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Hi Bryan,

The way the rating works as it is based on the combined moves of all 5 tests your WChess2000 test finished with a final score of ELO 2489. Which is 37 ELO better than WChess 1.6 Mhz on Mysticum 1000 MHz. Therefore it is still hard to tell if WChess2000 is actually better than WChess 1.6 :)

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Hi Nick

I still get 2522

G1 2704+2668=2686
G2 2558+2438=2498
G3 2702+2929=2815
G4 2015+2706=2360
G5 2335+2167=2251

Combined 5 games = 2522

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