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- paulwise3
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Do you have subcollections?
At last I received the one and only Saitek GK 2000, of which are made so many clones. And it made me think about my (sub-)collection of GK 2000 clones. For me it all started with a mint Turbo Advanced Trainer.
That reminded me of a thread not too long ago, where a subcollection of chess teaching computers was mentioned, for instance the Mephisto Academy, Mephisto Schachakademie, Mephisto Talking Chess Academy, Mephisto Schachschule, Mephisto College, etc.
Right now I have a subcollection of 7 models for the famous GK 2000 (and there are a few more...):
Saitek GK 2000
Saitek Travel Champion 2080 (7 MHz instead of 10 MHz)
Saitek Turbo Advanced Trainer
Saitek Executive
Saitek Virtuoso
Saitek Barracuda
Mephisto Chess Explorer
What subcollections do our fellow collectors have? Would be interesting to hear about
Subcollecting regards,
Paul
That reminded me of a thread not too long ago, where a subcollection of chess teaching computers was mentioned, for instance the Mephisto Academy, Mephisto Schachakademie, Mephisto Talking Chess Academy, Mephisto Schachschule, Mephisto College, etc.
Right now I have a subcollection of 7 models for the famous GK 2000 (and there are a few more...):
Saitek GK 2000
Saitek Travel Champion 2080 (7 MHz instead of 10 MHz)
Saitek Turbo Advanced Trainer
Saitek Executive
Saitek Virtuoso
Saitek Barracuda
Mephisto Chess Explorer
What subcollections do our fellow collectors have? Would be interesting to hear about
Subcollecting regards,
Paul
2024 Special thread: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=12741
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If I am mistaken, it must be caused by a horizon effect...
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If I am mistaken, it must be caused by a horizon effect...
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Interestingly - copy and clones
Hi Paul;
Interestingly, in other words, clones can understand as copy then copy could understand how a pirate? However the computers have the same programmer, so I wouldn't have anything illegal in this theme? However we have several machines with the same style, which is not good!
Regards
Oswaldo
Interestingly, in other words, clones can understand as copy then copy could understand how a pirate? However the computers have the same programmer, so I wouldn't have anything illegal in this theme? However we have several machines with the same style, which is not good!
Regards
Oswaldo
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Hi Oswaldo,
No, there is nothing illegal with these machines , these are all from the same manufacturer. But all with different design of the housing. And yes, all with the same program, so I probably will sell one or two again... or even try to tune one (sorry Steve )
But there are more programs that appear in different models and also by different manufacturers. One example is the 4 kb program of Kaare Danielsen.
But the reason I started this thread is that I was curious to know how other collectors look for (sub) collections. E.g. only wood, or all machines participating at a certain world championship in the past, only plastic, only a certain elo-range, etc. Just anything one can think of.
Kind regards
Paul
No, there is nothing illegal with these machines , these are all from the same manufacturer. But all with different design of the housing. And yes, all with the same program, so I probably will sell one or two again... or even try to tune one (sorry Steve )
But there are more programs that appear in different models and also by different manufacturers. One example is the 4 kb program of Kaare Danielsen.
But the reason I started this thread is that I was curious to know how other collectors look for (sub) collections. E.g. only wood, or all machines participating at a certain world championship in the past, only plastic, only a certain elo-range, etc. Just anything one can think of.
Kind regards
Paul
2024 Special thread: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=12741
2024 Special results and standings: https://schaakcomputers.nl/paul_w/Tourn ... 25_06.html
If I am mistaken, it must be caused by a horizon effect...
2024 Special results and standings: https://schaakcomputers.nl/paul_w/Tourn ... 25_06.html
If I am mistaken, it must be caused by a horizon effect...
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nothing illegal with these machines
Hello Paul,
Paul, thanks for the clarification. I believe that Steve doesn't like the notion that someone can change something on the computer, Steve can be called the perfect collector!
All my best
Oswaldo
Paul, thanks for the clarification. I believe that Steve doesn't like the notion that someone can change something on the computer, Steve can be called the perfect collector!
All my best
Oswaldo
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Re: nothing illegal with these machines
Thanks for those kind words Oswaldodedicate computers wrote:Hello Paul,
Paul, thanks for the clarification. I believe that Steve doesn't like the notion that someone can change something on the computer, Steve can be called the perfect collector!
All my best
Oswaldo
I don't know how perfect I will be in the coming days
the US stock market is crashing and I will soon be forced to sell all of my best computers
Near Bankruptcy Regards
Steve
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if I could explain it I would not be losing so muchdedicate computers wrote:Steve,the US stock market is crashing and I will soon be forced to sell all of my best computers
The news that I know here in Brazil do not point lower at the stock market in the U.S.
Could you explain better or is this a King's gambit?
All my best
Oswaldo
makes no sense to me..unlike 2008 there is no Banking Crisis or Real Estate bubble
all I can say is it is the worst start of a new year in US Stock Market history
Homeless Soon Regards
Steve
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Last week I saw that coming and instructed my investors to put all my money in the safest funds.Steve B wrote:if I could explain it I would not be losing so muchdedicate computers wrote:Steve,the US stock market is crashing and I will soon be forced to sell all of my best computers
The news that I know here in Brazil do not point lower at the stock market in the U.S.
Could you explain better or is this a King's gambit?
All my best
Oswaldo
makes no sense to me..unlike 2008 there is no Banking Crisis or Real Estate bubble
all I can say is it is the worst start of a new year in US Stock Market history
Homeless Soon Regards
Steve
So...
I am just half ruined regards
Fern
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- Fernando
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The signs for me were Chinese problems and some warnings given by Scotia bank....Fernando wrote:Last week I saw that coming and instructed my investors to put all my money in the safest funds.Steve B wrote:if I could explain it I would not be losing so muchdedicate computers wrote:Steve,the US stock market is crashing and I will soon be forced to sell all of my best computers
The news that I know here in Brazil do not point lower at the stock market in the U.S.
Could you explain better or is this a King's gambit?
All my best
Oswaldo
makes no sense to me..unlike 2008 there is no Banking Crisis or Real Estate bubble
all I can say is it is the worst start of a new year in US Stock Market history
Homeless Soon Regards
Steve
So...
I am just half ruined regards
Fern
Just a leaf falling just because put me in alert regards
F
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goodFernando wrote:The signs for me were Chinese problems and some warnings given by Scotia bank....Fernando wrote:Last week I saw that coming and instructed my investors to put all my money in the safest funds.Steve B wrote:if I could explain it I would not be losing so muchdedicate computers wrote:Steve,the US stock market is crashing and I will soon be forced to sell all of my best computers
The news that I know here in Brazil do not point lower at the stock market in the U.S.
Could you explain better or is this a King's gambit?
All my best
Oswaldo
makes no sense to me..unlike 2008 there is no Banking Crisis or Real Estate bubble
all I can say is it is the worst start of a new year in US Stock Market history
Homeless Soon Regards
Steve
So...
I am just half ruined regards
Fern
Just a leaf falling just because put me in alert regards
F
now you can give me back all of the chess computers I sent to you over the years
I need to sell them for food and medical supplies
Hungry And Sick Regards
Steve
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Steve B wrote:goodFernando wrote:The signs for me were Chinese problems and some warnings given by Scotia bank....Fernando wrote:Last week I saw that coming and instructed my investors to put all my money in the safest funds.Steve B wrote:if I could explain it I would not be losing so muchdedicate computers wrote:Steve,the US stock market is crashing and I will soon be forced to sell all of my best computers
The news that I know here in Brazil do not point lower at the stock market in the U.S.
Could you explain better or is this a King's gambit?
All my best
Oswaldo
makes no sense to me..unlike 2008 there is no Banking Crisis or Real Estate bubble
all I can say is it is the worst start of a new year in US Stock Market history
Homeless Soon Regards
Steve
So...
I am just half ruined regards
Fern
Just a leaf falling just because put me in alert regards
F
now you can give me back all of the chess computers I sent to you over the years
I need to sell them for food and medical supplies
Hungry And Sick Regards
Steve
Something better:
I can offer you a credit of about 50 kbucks at 3.5% a week.
My Serbians are on charge of collecting the rent....
Collateral is of curse your full collection.
Russian mafia regards
F
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- paulwise3
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Thanx Michael,
Those really are respectable subcollections!
Best regards, Paul
Those really are respectable subcollections!
Best regards, Paul
2024 Special thread: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=12741
2024 Special results and standings: https://schaakcomputers.nl/paul_w/Tourn ... 25_06.html
If I am mistaken, it must be caused by a horizon effect...
2024 Special results and standings: https://schaakcomputers.nl/paul_w/Tourn ... 25_06.html
If I am mistaken, it must be caused by a horizon effect...
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Any enough big collection involves the existence of subcollections; any subcollection is in itself a collection.
A collection that is not big enough to have subcollections is NOT a real collection, but a sad joke.
So...
collections as such and subcollections coincide..
Aristotle send his regards
Fern
A collection that is not big enough to have subcollections is NOT a real collection, but a sad joke.
So...
collections as such and subcollections coincide..
Aristotle send his regards
Fern
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