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I agree, Paul.
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And so to the 5th game of the match Fid Eag v 11 72mhz versus CG Pro. As throughout Hiarcs Book eco off.
White "Fid EAG V11 72mhz"]
[Black "CG Pro"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "C67"]
[PlyCount "138"]

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 Nf6 4. O-O Nxe4 5. d4 Nd6 6. Bxc6 dxc6 7. dxe5 Nf5
8. Qxd8+ Kxd8 9. Rd1+ Ke8 10. Nc3 Be6 11. Ne2 a5 12. Bg5 h6 13. Bd2 Bd5 14.
Ned4 Nxd4 15. Nxd4 h5 16. b3 Be4 17. c4 Bc5 18. Bg5 a4 19. bxa4 Ba3 20. f3 Bg6
21. Rd2 Bb4 22. Rf2 Bc5 23. Rd1 Rxa4 24. Kf1 Be7 25. Bxe7 Kxe7 26. Rb2 c5 27.
Ne2 b6 28. Rbd2 Rxc4 29. Rd7+ Ke6 30. Rxc7 Ra8 31. Rc6+ Kxe5 32. Rd2 Rb4 33.
Rcd6 Rd4 34. R6xd4 cxd4 35. Nxd4 Bb1 36. Nc6+ Ke6 37. Nb4 Ra3 38. Rb2 Bg6 39.
Nc2 Ra6 40. Kf2 Kd6 41. Nd4 Kc5 42. Nb3+ Kc4 43. Rd2 Kc3 44. Ke1 Bd3 45. Nc1
Bc4 46. g3 Ra5 47. f4 b5 48. Kd1 f5 49. h3 Ra6 50. Rc2+ Kd4 51. Ke1 Ra3 52. Kf2
h4 53. gxh4 Ke4 54. Kg2 Kxf4 55. Kh2 Ke3 56. Rg2 f4 57. Rxg7 Rc3 58. Nb3 Rc2+
59. Kg1 f3 60. Rg3 Rxa2 61. h5 Bd5 62. h6 Bxb3 63. h7 Ra8 64. Kh2 Rh8 65. Rg5
f2 66. Rxb5 Bc2 67. Re5+ Kf3 68. Re6 Bf5 69. Rf6 f1=N+ 0-1

The programs come out of the opening exactly evens at move 13 and a sort of Berlin Defence/Endgame open variation ensues. The game remains even until move 40 when the Fidelity EAG begins to lose the thread and the CG Pro begins to assert its endgame strength and calculating clout in an endgame of bishop rook plus four against knight rook plus four.
So the CG Pro leads 3-2 with one game to go, can the fidelity pull back the last game to draw the match?
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And so to the last game in the match Fidelity EAG v11 72mhz v CG Pro:
White "CG Pro"]
[Black "Fid EAG v11 72mhz"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "D94"]
[PlyCount "199"]

1. Nf3 d5 2. e3 Nf6 3. c4 c6 4. Nc3 g6 5. Be2 Bg7 6. O-O dxc4 7. Bxc4 O-O 8. d4
Nbd7 9. e4 Nb6 10. Be2 Bg4 11. Bf4 Nh5 12. Be3 Qd6 13. h3 Bxf3 14. Bxf3 e5 15.
dxe5 Qxe5 16. Bxh5 Qxh5 17. Qxh5 gxh5 18. Rfd1 Nc4 19. Rd7 Nxb2 20. Nd1 Nc4 21.
Rc1 b5 22. Bg5 Rfe8 23. f3 c5 24. Nc3 Bxc3 25. Rxc3 a6 26. Rd5 Nb6 27. Rd6 Na4
28. Rc2 Re6 29. Rd5 f6 30. Bf4 h4 31. Rh5 Rd8 32. Rxh4 c4 33. Rh5 Re7 34. Rf5
Kf7 35. Kf2 Re6 36. Rh5 Kg8 37. g3 c3 38. Rd5 Ree8 39. Rf5 Re6 40. Ke2 Kg7 41.
g4 h6 42. Rh5 Rh8 43. Rd5 Rc6 44. Be3 Rg8 45. h4 Kg6 46. Rf5 Rh8 47. h5+ Kh7
48. Bd4 Rf8 49. a3 Rf7 50. Ke3 Kg8 51. Rd5 Rfc7 52. Kf2 Nb2 53. Rd8+ Kg7 54.
Be3 Re7 55. Rd5 Kh7 56. Bc1 Na4 57. Kg2 Rf7 58. Bf4 Rg7 59. Kh3 Re7 60. Be3
Rec7 61. Kh4 Rb7 62. Kg3 a5 63. Rc1 c2 64. Rd2 Rc3 65. Bd4 Rxa3 66. Rdxc2 Rd3
67. Rc7+ Rxc7 68. Rxc7+ Kg8 69. Bxf6 b4 70. Rg7+ Kf8 71. Ra7 Nc3 72. Bxc3 bxc3
73. Rxa5 Ke7 74. Rc5 Kd6 75. Rc4 Ke6 76. Kf2 Kd7 77. Ke2 Rd2+ 78. Ke3 Rc2 79.
Kf4 Rc1 80. Kf5 c2 81. Kg6 Rf1 82. Rxc2 Rxf3 83. Kxh6 Rf4 84. g5 Rf8 85. g6
Rh8+ 86. Kg5 Re8 87. h6 Re5+ 88. Kf4 Rh5 89. g7 Rh4+ 90. Kg5 Rh1 91. h7 Kd6 92.
h8=Q Rg1+ 93. Kf4 Rf1+ 94. Ke3 Re1+ 95. Kd2 Rg1 96. Qf8+ Kd7 97. Qf7+ Kd8 98.
Qd5+ Ke7 99. Rc7+ Kf6 100. Qf5# 1-0

The CG Pro got a slight edge out of the opening but by move 30 Stockfish has the EAG ahead by about half a pawn based on its imposing 3-1 queenside pawn majority. The decisive blunder is 64...Rc3 which changes the evaluation from -2.9 in blacks favour to +3.3 in whites. Thus the final match score is 4-2 in favour of the CG Pro. I make this a performance rating for this match of 2438 for the CG Pro. The two machines are generally very closely matched and in this short series it was the CG Pro,s endgame calculation grunt that appeared to give it an edge in some fairly long games. Over a much longer series thing could easily be more even.
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lexman wrote: Thus the final match score is 4-2 in favour of the CG Pro. I make this a performance rating for this match of 2438 for the CG Pro.
Thanks for the mini-match
even more evidence that the CGP plays a solid 2400 at 1 Min

the picture is becoming clearer:
30 Sec -2500+
1 min -2400+
3 min-2300+

an amazing reduction in strength as the TC Increases

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the picture is becoming clearer:
30 Sec -2500+
1 min -2400+
3 min-2300+
If the pool included human players, the numbers would probably be lower. I'm a 1900 (USCF) player and my score after 8 G30 is 50% (three wins, one draw and three losses). Curiously, all of my wins were tactical melees whereas my losses were me being squeezed to death in predominantly positional games.
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Steve B wrote: the picture is becoming clearer:
30 Sec -2500+
1 min -2400+
3 min-2300+

an amazing reduction in strength as the TC Increases

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Steve
Hi Steve,

I think this is looking about right. I have been delayed in starting my matches against the Magellan as unfortunately just lost my Mum which is devastating to say the least. It will be good to start the match to take my mind of things but so much red tape to get through!

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Ray
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Ray

Very Sorry To hear about your loss
May She Rest In Peace

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Steve B wrote:Ray

Very Sorry To hear about your loss
May She Rest In Peace

Best Regards
Steve
Thanks Steve, much appreciated.

Best Regards
Ray
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Steve B wrote:Ray

Very Sorry To hear about your loss
May She Rest In Peace

Best Regards
Steve
I'm sure Steve was speaking for all of us. It's always
sad to hear of the passing of a loved one

Condolences...
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Larry wrote:
Steve B wrote:Ray

Very Sorry To hear about your loss
May She Rest In Peace

Best Regards
Steve
I'm sure Steve was speaking for all of us. It's always
sad to hear of the passing of a loved one

Condolences...
Ray,
Sorry to hear about your loss. Our prays are with you.

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Steve B wrote:Ray

Very Sorry To hear about your loss
May She Rest In Peace

Best Regards
Steve
I am so sorry about your loss
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Thank you everyone for your kind messages. It does help to be a part of a friendly online community.

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Steve B wrote:Ray

Very Sorry To hear about your loss
May She Rest In Peace

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Steve
Ray - I am truly sorry to hear of the loss of your mother.

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Managed to get around to playing the first of ten games between the MCGP and Magellan at 40m/2h using the Human book. I have set the Magellan to use its tournament book for maximum strength, but less variation in opening play.

In this game they played the Reti opening with the Magellan out of book at move 4 whilst the MCGP held on until move 6:

[Event "40m/2h H book"]
[Date "2016.11.13"]
[Round "1"]
[White "MCGP"]
[Black "Magellan"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "A05"]

1.Nf3 Nf6 2.g3 c5 3.Bg2 d5 4.O-O e6 5.d3 Bd6 6.Nc3 O-O 7.Nb5 Be7 8.Bf4 Na6 9.c3 Nh5 10.Qd2 Nxf4 11.Qxf4 Qb6 12.a4 Bd7 13.c4 Nb4 14.a5 Qd8 15.Nc3 d4 16.Nb1 Bc6 17.Nbd2 f5 18.Nb3 Bd6 19.Qg5 e5 20.Qxd8 Raxd8 21.Ng5 Rfe8 22.Rfc1 e4 23.dxe4 h6 24.Nf3 fxe4 25.Ne1 Kf7 26.Nc2 Nxc2 27.Rxc2 Rf8 28.a6 b6 29.Rcc1 Ke6 30.Nd2 Kf5 31.f4 Ba8 32.Rd1 Bc7 33.Bh3+ Kf6 34.Bg2 Rfe8 35.Nb3 g6 36.Rf1 d3 37.Rfe1 d2 38.Red1 e3 39.Bxa8 Rxa8 40.Kg2 Re4 41.Kf3 Rae8 42.Ra4 Kf5 43.Na1 h5 44.Nc2 Bxf4 45.gxf4 Rxf4+ 46.Kg3 h4+ 47.Kh3 Rf2 48.Ra3 Rxe2 49.Rd3 Re7 50.Rd8 g5 51.Rf8+ Ke4 52.Rd8 Rf2 53.Kg4 Rxh2 54.Kxg5 Kf3 55.Rf1+ Ke2 56.Rb1 Rg2+ 57.Kf6 Re4 58.b3 h3 59.Rh1 h2 60.Rd5 Rh4 61.Nxe3 Rh6+ 62.Kf5 Kxe3 63.Re5+ Kf3 64.Rd5 Rg1 65.Rxh2 Rxh2 66.Ke6 d1=Q 67.Rxd1 Rxd1 68.Kf6 Kf4 0-1

Final position:
[fen]8/p7/Pp3K2/2p5/2P2k2/1P6/7r/3r4 w - - 2 69[/fen]
Game over, Magellan announced mate in 5!

The Magellan dominated this game and the MCGP was powerless as black marched its pawns into the enemy camp.

I'll start the next game as soon as I can.

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Ray
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Yarc wrote:My MCG Pro arrived today!

First impression:

What I am really liking from the start is that when powering it from mains I don't have to keep pressing the Light button every so often to see the display, and that it no longer shuts down whilst analysing a move! The much lighter touch of the chess board making it so much easier to enter moves is a real bonus. To my mind these are the most annoying aspects of the earlier MCG model.

I notice that the Human book is selected by default which makes me think that this is considered the best/strongest option by Millenium, don't know, time will tell.

Now I must decide which of my older machines to pit the MCG Pro against first. I am currently thinking the Stardiamond followed by the Magellan and then the Cosmos. The StarDiamond won the ten game match against the MCG by one point. I don't think it's going to do so well against the MCG Pro, but we shall see.

Either way, its going to take a while for two ten game matches, one match using the Human book, the other using the London book. Maybe I will see a difference in performance between the books or maybe not. Either way, it will be interesting. I will keep you posted when I start the matches and as they progress.

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Ray.
Ray & Steve,

Thank you for putting the MCG Pro thru its paces and posting so many games. I'm considering upgrading my MCG to the Pro.

A couple of quick questions about the Pro:

1. Is the LCD screen improved compared to the MCG, or does the backlight just remain on with the Pro?
2. Do you feel that the squares are more responsive?
3. Is the power adapter cord longer?

Just kidding about #3, but I am interested in the LCD and response of the squares... :D

Greg
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