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Machine Playing style compred to Human Chess Champion Style

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Hello,

i trid to compare the playing style of our beloved machine, to the playing style of player of the past. In my view here are my style association ( without taking into account the level of play)

Garry Kasparov
Style: Brilliant Tactician and Attacker. An aggressively dynamic player. Noted chess teacher Bruce Pandolfini described Kasparov in this fashion, "Kasparov strives to gain deep positional sacrifices: Even when he can't calculate the end result conclusively, he can make sophisticated generalizations. He does anything to get the initiative and to force the play. Inevitably, he emerges from a forest of complications -- in which his intentions aren't all that clear -- with the advantage. He's not as artful or as clear as Fischer, but his play coincides with the realities of the day, which are all about defense."

Program : The Morsh program can probably be associated to this aggressive style

2. Bobby Fischer
Style: A uniquely superb master strategist who was not afraid of complications. Fischer was a specialist in certain openings that he knew better than anyone else. A fighting spirit second to none, refused draws and played to win every game. Pandolfini called Fischer "a king of artful positioning. His opponents would see where he was going but were powerless to stop him.". Fisher use the more effective way to win, he can choose a weaker move , giving a easy to win position, rather than the best brilliant move, giving opportunities to his opponent.

Program : I would associated Fisher to Johan de Koning’s program


3. Jose Capablanca
Style: Nicknamed the "Chess Machine" because of the systematic and seemingly simple method by which he bested his opponents. Capablanca was a natural player who is considered the epitome of the “Pure Positional” player. He preferred clarity of position, as well as logical and direct development, he tended to avoid complications and was satisfied to obtain small advantages and convert them to a superior endgame where he had no equal.

Program : Some defensive Kittinger program ( such as those used by Obsidian , and Diamond?) , produced to counter opponent tactical move, can probably be compare to Capablanca style.

4. Alexander Alekhine

Style: Imaginative tactician and attacker, a true chess genius in his originality of thought. His ideas were rich with complexity. “His attacks came suddenly, like destructive thunderstorms that erupted from a clear blue sky” (Kasparov). He studied the openings and made many contributions to theory. A very difficult man to beat, it was said that in order to win a game from him one had to beat him 3 times, once in the opening, once in the middlegame and again in the ending.

Program : Sparcklen program are aggressive program, loving complex position, may probably be associated to Alekhine.

5. Anatoly Karpov
Style: Karpov played highly positional chess. He consistently improved his position by moves that show extraordinary positional understanding. He played without taking many risks, and without making many mistakes. He waited for his opponents to make the slightest inaccuracy and then grinded them to dust. Karpov's mastery of the ending was unparalleled, although he kept his openings repertoire relatively narrow, his middlegame was always solid.

Program : No doubt for me, Lang can be compare to the Anaconda karpov’s Style.


6. Emmanuel Lasker
Style: Reuben Fine said, "In Lasker, I see, above all, the supreme tactical genius." Lasker also had a reputation as a defensive risk-taker. Lasker was a supreme fighter a characteristic that allowed him to turn many lost games into victories. He was equally at home in both position and combinative play. The supreme chess psychologist, he was the first GM to thoroughly study his opponents and was more interested in heading into play that his opponents were uncomfortable with than making the objectively best move. His endgame technique was legendary. The best summoning up of Lasker’s play can be found in the following quote, “Lasker’s play is like clear limpid water- with a dash of poison in it!”


Program : i didn't find any machine corresponding to this style, using his opponent's weakness.

7. Viswanathan Anand

Style: Superb tactical player with super-fast sight of the board. He finds complex tactical ideas in seconds. He makes moves very quickly, plays confidently, and calculates like a machine. He plays aggressive and attacking chess, but is also a solid defender.

Program : May be the Diamond/Sapphire program from Kittinger, can be associated , not sure.


8.. Vladmir Kramnik
Style: Sometimes called the "Iceman" Kramnik plays a style of tough defensive chess that is hard to beat, but also is a “silent but powerful attacker.” Described as “almost invincible “ by some opponents. He has a clear style of play and builds up strong positions for both offense and defense. His technique is flawless, and is a powerful positional player.

Program : In my view , can be associated to Shroder’s products. Rebel and his family ( MM IV, MM V, Polgar, etc…) are always very hard opponent to defeat. They can always launch a powerful attack if their opponents weaken their position. So i associate this family to Kramnik


9. Mikhail Botvinnik
Style: The first product of the Soviet school, a disciplined and insightful player who remained at the top for decades. Ascended to the chess throne in 1948, no non-Soviet was to win again until 1972. Botvinnik could play clear positions well but was unafraid of complications. He had a strong grasp of the strategic elements of any given position. His methodical style and strategic mastery made him a dominant figure in the post World War II chess scene. Botvinnik developed many original opening ideas and enriched endgame theory with meticulous analyses.

Program : The Kaplan program, very strong in positional play, always able to find tactical resource to surprise their opponent may probably be associated to Botvinnik



10. Mikhail Tal

Style: Called the “Magician Of Riga” Tal was the finest ever exponent of attacking chess. A highly imaginative tactician, he played with an all out sacrificial style creating immense complications that he reveled in. Tal was an attacking genius, a superb calculator with amazingly swift sight of the board. His attacking style consisted of beautiful displays of multiple, cascading fireworks, where the true nature of the positions during the execution of his combinations was unfathomable by his opponents. Tal purposely played moves that created the maximum complications for both sides. He once said, "One doesn't have to play well. One only needs to play better than his opponent". Dr. Lasker would have loved that quote, for he too deemed the game of chess as a struggle between two minds, as opposed to each player blindly making "correct" moves. Plagued by ill health throughout his career his reign as chess champion was a short one.


Program : The Most aggressive Kitinger’s program ( in super constellation , Diablo) can probably be associated to Tal (or Shirov)

What is your own view ?

Best Regards

Nicolas
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Re: Machine Playing style compred to Human Chess Champion St

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scandien wrote:Hello,
i trid to compare the playing style of our beloved machine, to the playing style of player of the past. In my view here are my style association ( without taking into account the level of play)
Nicolas
Hello Nicolas,
Very interesting comparison of playing styles. While I am not qualified to venture a comparison, I look forward to seeing other collector's opinions. Thanks for getting this started.

Regards,
Dave
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scandien wrote:Hello,

i trid to compare the playing style of our beloved machine, to the playing style of player of the past. In my view here are my style association ( without taking into account the level of play)

Garry Kasparov
Style: Brilliant Tactician and Attacker. An aggressively dynamic player. Noted chess teacher Bruce Pandolfini described Kasparov in this fashion, "Kasparov strives to gain deep positional sacrifices: Even when he can't calculate the end result conclusively, he can make sophisticated generalizations. He does anything to get the initiative and to force the play. Inevitably, he emerges from a forest of complications -- in which his intentions aren't all that clear -- with the advantage. He's not as artful or as clear as Fischer, but his play coincides with the realities of the day, which are all about defense."

Program : The Morsh program can probably be associated to this aggressive style

2. Bobby Fischer
Style: A uniquely superb master strategist who was not afraid of complications. Fischer was a specialist in certain openings that he knew better than anyone else. A fighting spirit second to none, refused draws and played to win every game. Pandolfini called Fischer "a king of artful positioning. His opponents would see where he was going but were powerless to stop him.". Fisher use the more effective way to win, he can choose a weaker move , giving a easy to win position, rather than the best brilliant move, giving opportunities to his opponent.

Program : I would associated Fisher to Johan de Koning’s program


3. Jose Capablanca
Style: Nicknamed the "Chess Machine" because of the systematic and seemingly simple method by which he bested his opponents. Capablanca was a natural player who is considered the epitome of the “Pure Positional” player. He preferred clarity of position, as well as logical and direct development, he tended to avoid complications and was satisfied to obtain small advantages and convert them to a superior endgame where he had no equal.

Program : Some defensive Kittinger program ( such as those used by Obsidian , and Diamond?) , produced to counter opponent tactical move, can probably be compare to Capablanca style.

4. Alexander Alekhine

Style: Imaginative tactician and attacker, a true chess genius in his originality of thought. His ideas were rich with complexity. “His attacks came suddenly, like destructive thunderstorms that erupted from a clear blue sky” (Kasparov). He studied the openings and made many contributions to theory. A very difficult man to beat, it was said that in order to win a game from him one had to beat him 3 times, once in the opening, once in the middlegame and again in the ending.

Program : Sparcklen program are aggressive program, loving complex position, may probably be associated to Alekhine.

5. Anatoly Karpov
Style: Karpov played highly positional chess. He consistently improved his position by moves that show extraordinary positional understanding. He played without taking many risks, and without making many mistakes. He waited for his opponents to make the slightest inaccuracy and then grinded them to dust. Karpov's mastery of the ending was unparalleled, although he kept his openings repertoire relatively narrow, his middlegame was always solid.

Program : No doubt for me, Lang can be compare to the Anaconda karpov’s Style.


6. Emmanuel Lasker
Style: Reuben Fine said, "In Lasker, I see, above all, the supreme tactical genius." Lasker also had a reputation as a defensive risk-taker. Lasker was a supreme fighter a characteristic that allowed him to turn many lost games into victories. He was equally at home in both position and combinative play. The supreme chess psychologist, he was the first GM to thoroughly study his opponents and was more interested in heading into play that his opponents were uncomfortable with than making the objectively best move. His endgame technique was legendary. The best summoning up of Lasker’s play can be found in the following quote, “Lasker’s play is like clear limpid water- with a dash of poison in it!”


Program : i didn't find any machine corresponding to this style, using his opponent's weakness.

7. Viswanathan Anand

Style: Superb tactical player with super-fast sight of the board. He finds complex tactical ideas in seconds. He makes moves very quickly, plays confidently, and calculates like a machine. He plays aggressive and attacking chess, but is also a solid defender.

Program : May be the Diamond/Sapphire program from Kittinger, can be associated , not sure.


8.. Vladmir Kramnik
Style: Sometimes called the "Iceman" Kramnik plays a style of tough defensive chess that is hard to beat, but also is a “silent but powerful attacker.” Described as “almost invincible “ by some opponents. He has a clear style of play and builds up strong positions for both offense and defense. His technique is flawless, and is a powerful positional player.

Program : In my view , can be associated to Shroder’s products. Rebel and his family ( MM IV, MM V, Polgar, etc…) are always very hard opponent to defeat. They can always launch a powerful attack if their opponents weaken their position. So i associate this family to Kramnik


9. Mikhail Botvinnik
Style: The first product of the Soviet school, a disciplined and insightful player who remained at the top for decades. Ascended to the chess throne in 1948, no non-Soviet was to win again until 1972. Botvinnik could play clear positions well but was unafraid of complications. He had a strong grasp of the strategic elements of any given position. His methodical style and strategic mastery made him a dominant figure in the post World War II chess scene. Botvinnik developed many original opening ideas and enriched endgame theory with meticulous analyses.

Program : The Kaplan program, very strong in positional play, always able to find tactical resource to surprise their opponent may probably be associated to Botvinnik



10. Mikhail Tal

Style: Called the “Magician Of Riga” Tal was the finest ever exponent of attacking chess. A highly imaginative tactician, he played with an all out sacrificial style creating immense complications that he reveled in. Tal was an attacking genius, a superb calculator with amazingly swift sight of the board. His attacking style consisted of beautiful displays of multiple, cascading fireworks, where the true nature of the positions during the execution of his combinations was unfathomable by his opponents. Tal purposely played moves that created the maximum complications for both sides. He once said, "One doesn't have to play well. One only needs to play better than his opponent". Dr. Lasker would have loved that quote, for he too deemed the game of chess as a struggle between two minds, as opposed to each player blindly making "correct" moves. Plagued by ill health throughout his career his reign as chess champion was a short one.


Program : The Most aggressive Kitinger’s program ( in super constellation , Diablo) can probably be associated to Tal (or Shirov)

What is your own view ?

Best Regards

Nicolas

My dear friend, you forgot me, with a style of play that is very well, represented by CC7 playing in level 1. I assure you this is the most strong coincidence.

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