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Sargon1972
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Steve B wrote:
Peter63 wrote:
The following is taken from the Millenium website:
sounds great Peter
except for ....

Peter63 wrote:
Programming author: Richard Lang
Program: Development based on popular world-champion programs


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Hello All,

As i am testing the Exclusive Pro at this moment ...more i can not write,sorry

More is coming .......be patience ....also here i can not say more

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Would someone that speaks German post a brief summery of any new information presented in the video? There is probably a lot of new information about the Exclusive that we haven't learned about previously. I am anxious to learn more.
I could give it a shot:

Pros
* Excellent build quality (board)
* Great piece and move recognition
* Intuitive menu system and settings

Cons
* The device with the actual CPU is far less "exclusive" than the actual board
* Opening book with great variety but many (relatively) weak lines
* Unclear who the intended audience is as the weak engine/CPU does not lend itself to serious analysis.
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The weak engine of 2350+ elo :-)))))
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Dave C wrote:Would someone that speaks German post a brief summery of any new information presented in the video? There is probably a lot of new information about the Exclusive that we haven't learned about previously. I am anxious to learn more.

Curious....regards,
Dave
Hi Dave

Try this.

Click on my YouTube shortcut
https://youtu.be/AvxpaTh8NAw
Now click on the 'Settings' icon lower right of screen
Click on 'Subtitles'
Click on 'German (auto-generated)
Click on 'Subtitles/CC(1) German (auto-generated) again
Click on Auto-translate
Select 'English' from the drop down menu
And now you should see the English translation onscreen

Hope this helps
Bryan

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Bryan,

Excellent! Many thanks. :D

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BishopBlougram wrote:
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* Unclear who the intended audience is as the weak engine/CPU does not lend itself to serious analysis.
That's an incredible statement. Are most of the posters here grandmasters?

Inferiority Complex Regards,
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That's an incredible statement. Are most of the posters here grandmasters?
Relatively speaking. Like its predecessor the "Pro", I am sure it's strong tactically but weak -- sometimes downright suicidal -- when it comes to positional chess and endgame play. For that reason, I would never use it to analyze my games.

I am still intrigued by the machine, though. For me, the relative weakness is a selling point; I would much rather play a computer where I stand a chance to win -- albeit not very often -- than being wiped out by Stockfish or Houdini in 20 moves.
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Sargon1972 wrote: Hello All,

As i am testing the Exclusive Pro at this moment ...more i can not write,sorry

More is coming .......be patience ....also here i can not say more

Kr,Hans
Hello Hans,
From your note I understand that you are not testing the Exclusive, you are testing the Exclusive Pro??? We have heard nothing of the Pro version of the Exclusive. When can we expect to learn more about the Pro?

Very curious...regards,
Dave
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I heard revelation III and NEW DGT boards are coming out. Cant wait.



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Dave C wrote:
Sargon1972 wrote: Hello All,

As i am testing the Exclusive Pro at this moment ...more i can not write,sorry

More is coming .......be patience ....also here i can not say more

Kr,Hans
Hello Hans,
From your note I understand that you are not testing the Exclusive, you are testing the Exclusive Pro??? We have heard nothing of the Pro version of the Exclusive. When can we expect to learn more about the Pro?

Very curious...regards,
Dave
Hello Dave,

Even a "old" Man like me can me mistakes , as Chess Programs :lol:
It is indeed without the Pro

Kr,Hans
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Some observations (and opinions, of course) about things I've read in this thread:
  • * I have ChessGenius for my phone and tablets. I see nothing wrong with having it also for an engine. (I also have the Gavon and the DGT 3000/Pi.) Maybe if I were rated Master or above I'd feel differently about it.
    * Why buy a board when you have an app? Easy! I stare at the frickin' computer screen all day long for work. When I play chess, I want to push wood, whether I'm playing against a person or a computer. I only have chess programs on my devices for keeping me awake in boring meetings, and on my PC for serious study and practice (or to interface with my DGT board or Novag UCB so I can play against engines without having to stare at a screen).
    * Setups like this are not really meant for analysis; they're meant for play. Plenty of applications exist for running on a PC to do a deep analysis.
    * I applaud Millenium's efforts to revive wooden chess computers. My preorder is in. (I also have an Impos Royal, another very nice wooden board that uses Mephisto modules, so choices are appearing again. Yay!)
    * The separate display/board idea is not new. The closest cousin I can think of is the Novag Citrine. From what I've seen of the setup, the "brain unit" shouldn't be any more intrusive than a chess clock in a tournament setting. Also, considering the specs, it should be able to run Linux and therefore other engines. Whether Millennium will directly support that configuration or not remains to be seen. The biggest obstacle would probably be the driver to interface the board to the engines. DGT offers driver source, so if the setup is similar to DGT's, driver writers would already have a good starting point.
    * The board supports loading and saving games, so it may be able to play other engines or even online on a PC. If it can't do that, I may try to write a driver to support that functionality.
Yeah, I'm looking forward to it. My 100+ other chess computers appear to be feeling a little nervous about the upcoming intruder into their domain.
Cheers,

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This Months Chess Life mag(May 2017) has a full page add for the Millennium line of dedicated chess computers
havent seen them advertise chess computers for a long time
anyway...they list the MCGE as a pre-order for $700
high price aside..perhaps even more overstated was the rating
they show 2400 ELO/USCF 2600
a good 200 Pts more then the CGPro(rated 2200 ELO/2400 USCF

Reminds me of the good ol days when new computers were always grossly overrated

The More Things Change..The more They Stay The Same Regards
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If anyone is interested, we now have an electronic version of the Exclusive manual on our site on the Electronics page for perusal:http://www.chesshouse.com/electronic_chess_s/5.htm.

We also received word that Millennium is expecting to receive the first major production run to their warehouse in Germany sometime next week, which means we should be seeing them in the US on our door within 2 - 3 weeks.

Manually yours,
Paul
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It's coming !!!
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Post by Sargon1972 »

Hello Chess Computer friends

Here a link to games i played

for the article please translate ,because i go to bed now
https://www.schachcomputer.info/forum/s ... #post66370

Have fun with the games

Kr,Hans
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