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pr1uk
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2017 11:05 am    Post subject: Re: Montreux RIP Reply with quote

Dave C wrote:
Hi Mike,

Sorry to hear about the Montreux going dark.

Are there a few technically competent electronic repairman around the country that we could send these units to for repair? I have not found one yet.

When I click on the Chinese listings that are "too good to be true" I receive an error messaging saying that ebay has removed the listing.

Regards,
Dave


Your see lots on the bay this time of the year new members little or no sales and selling everything cheap. They will get some money up front then disappear never buy from anyone who as no good feedback and I mean old feedback. These scanners often get friends to pretend that bought goods and leave good reviews.
Be careful out there guys
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2017 11:08 am    Post subject: Re: Montreux RIP Reply with quote

Dave C wrote:
Hi Mike,

Sorry to hear about the Montreux going dark.

Are there a few technically competent electronic repairman around the country that we could send these units to for repair? I have not found one yet.

When I click on the Chinese listings that are "too good to be true" I receive an error messaging saying that ebay has removed the listing.

Regards,
Dave


Your see lots on the bay this time of the year new members little or no sales and selling everything cheap. They will get some money up front then disappear never buy from anyone who as no good feedback and I mean old feedback. These scanners often get friends to present that bought goods and leave good reviews.
Be careful out there guys
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Larry
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 11:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well guys, in case you've been wondering what became of the
Montreux in question, I did take a punt on being able to fix it, based
on the information given by Mike on this forum. We struck a deal in
a few personal messages, money changed hands, and so did the
Montreux. It arrived today, and what I suspected was the problem
turned out to indeed be the case. I'm not particularly techo but I do
have some experience with the Montreux/Risc2500 machines. The
GAL display chips do have a life expectancy of perhaps 18 years,
according to reports, supposedly assuming an average amount of
use. The Montreux's are now 22 years old. The Montreux GAL chips
are a simple push fit, unlike the earlier risc2500 GALS, which were
soldered in place. On most chess comps the display circuitry is in
parallel to the rest of the circuit so they can function minus the display.
However, the Montreux/risc2500 displays are wired in series, it seems,
because when they go bad the comp spits the dummy.
I just happened to have a spare set of GALS. After putting them I
ordered my wife from the room. We all know women are bad luck.
Then I pressed the power on button...and was greeted with a row
of lights coming on down the 'a' file, then across the first rank, then
came the sweet startup jingle and the display came to life.
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None of us want these old soldiers to end up in landfills, and it's good
to add this one to my collection. Complete and in good condition it is,
including the box and adaptor.
happy camper... Very Happy
Larry
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Steve B
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Congrats Larry
the real astonishing part of your happy tale is this...

Larry wrote:

I just happened to have a spare set of GALS


why on earth would you have spare GAL chips??
im collecting for 40 years and the only spare chips I have lying around the house are Potato and Nacho
Shocked

Stunned Regards
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im glad is ALIVE!!!

Im happy that a Montreux was saved and a little extra money in my pocket also helps. Now I have a nice B&W center speaker in my home theater.


Nice doing business with Larry, regards
Mike
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paulwise3
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well done Larry, enjoy your Montreux!

Repair regards,
Paul
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Larry
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steve B wrote:

why on earth would you have spare GAL chips??

I do include in my collection a few different variants of the risc2500.
As you know, it comes in a few versions. And of course, the Montreux
is a black risc2500 with a few parameter changes in the move generator
function. Since the GAL chips have a limited shelf life, it pays to be
ready. GALS are likely to become rare in the years ahead. So, when I
ordered GALS, I ordered extra.
L
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 11:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Larry wrote:
Steve B wrote:

why on earth would you have spare GAL chips??

I do include in my collection a few different variants of the risc2500.
As you know, it comes in a few versions. And of course, the Montreux
is a black risc2500 with a few parameter changes in the move generator
function. Since the GAL chips have a limited shelf life, it pays to be
ready. GALS are likely to become rare in the years ahead. So, when I
ordered GALS, I ordered extra.
L


i thought it was hard to find these chips these days
could you post a link to a place to order the exact chip?
Thanks Regards
Steve
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 22, 2017 7:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have chips and dumps for both RISC2500 and Montreux
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 22, 2017 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mike i also feel bad for you. It's a sad loss. Normally one would bury it but that would not be good for the environment. Get another one, burn a candle for the dead, and sell at any price on ebay.
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