The Ultimate Challenge 2: The Forum Team Vs. Hiarcs 12 BETA

[Dylan Sharp]

Welcome to The Ultimate Challenge II!

[Event "Ultimate Challenge 2"]
[Site "www.Hiarcs.net"]
[Date "2008.02.01"]
[Round "2"]
[White "The Hiarcs Forum Team"]
[Black "HIARCSX"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "B12"]
[Annotator "Harvey Williamson"]

1. e4 c6 2. d4 d5 3. f3 dxe4 4. fxe4 e5 5. Nf3 Bg4 6. Bc4 Nd7 7. c3 b5 8. Be2
Bd6 9. a4 a6 10. O-O Ngf6 11. Bg5 Bxf3 12. Bxf3 O-O 13. Nd2 Qb6 14. Be3 Rad8
15. Bf2 Qc7 16. h3 Rfe8 17. Qc2 Nf8 18. d5 Qc8 19. axb5 axb5 20. Qb3 Ng6 21.
Rfc1 cxd5 22. Qxb5 Nf4 23. Re1 Bf8 24. Ra7 dxe4 25. Nxe4 Nd3 26. Nxf6+ gxf6 27.
Bg4 f5 28. Bh5 Re7 29. Rxe7 Bxe7 30. Rd1 Nxf2 31. Kxf2 Rxd1 1/2-1/2

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The rules are simple, after Hiarcs 12 BETA makes its move, the forum members will have 48 hours to vote on moves in this thread. Then Hiarcs 12 BETA will have up to 48 hours to respond. And the cycle begins again. Only I, the team captain can play the move for the forum team.

You can use any computers to help or give Kasparov a call, with the exception of Hiarcs. You can not use any version of Hiarcs to help you in predicting Hiarcs 12 BETA's moves or otherwise.

We played 1. e4 as it had more votes than all the other moves.

Don't forget that it's just a game, so don't feel pressured to vote on any move by the discussions going and to just vote and play for fun!

[Harvey Williamson]

I asked Hiarcs about 1.e4 and rather surprisingly it said 1...c6

[martinus]

1... c6 is a nice defense. Now I vote for 2.c4. People can past here analysis taken from other chess engines, identifying the engine, and so?

[Mapi]

Hi all,
I think c6 isn´t a good choice for the Computer. It is passiv, and Computers doesnt´t like passive play, doesn´t they?
My Vote is now d4

best regards
Markus

[Steve B]

As there are no deep dark secrets in this match my services as Referee will not be needed
therefore i am free to vote along with the team
i shall be suggesting moves from time to time using all of the modules Mephisto ever released for sale
a different module for each move that i can vote in..

Lets start things off with the first Weltmeister Program Mephisto produced
the 1984 Glasgow "S" which suggests 2.d4

Modular Regards
Steve

[Harvey Williamson]

As there are no deep dark secrets in this match my services as Referee will not be needed
therefore i am free to vote along with the team
i shall be suggesting moves from time to time using all of the modules Mephisto ever released for sale
a different module for each move that i can vote in..

Lets start things off with the first Weltmeister Program Mephisto produced
the 1984 Glasgow "S" which suggests 2.d4

Modular Regards
Steve

I wonder if I should also use a different beta version for each move I have around 200 since H11!?

[Dylan Sharp]

I wonder if I should also use a different beta version for each move I have around 200 since H11!?

I think that you should only use the strongest BETA

Also, I vote 2. Nf3 since I have experience in this variation.

[Harvey Williamson]

I think that you should only use the strongest BETA

Good idea - if only I was 100% sure which the best one is and 11.95p just arrived 10 minutes ago - so many engines so few moves.

[Steve B]

I wonder if I should also use a different beta version for each move I have around 200 since H11!?

i see no rule against doing that
i suggest using only whole numbers though .. preferbly even numbers.. as Fern would be very upset otherwise

2..4..6..8.. regards
Steve

[Dylan Sharp]

Good idea - if only I was 100% sure which the best one is and 11.95p just arrived 10 minutes ago - so many engines so few moves.

You can use 47 hours 58 minutes of your time to choose a Hiarcs BETA to use, and the remaining 2 minutes to analyze the position with it

[martinus]

I wonder if I should also use a different beta version for each move I have around 200 since H11!?

Using recent betas of Hiarcs? I read the rules and I was convinced that any version of Hiarcs should not be used here to suggest moves.

[Harvey Williamson]

I wonder if I should also use a different beta version for each move I have around 200 since H11!?

Using recent betas of Hiarcs? I read the rules and I was convinced that any version of Hiarcs should not be used here to suggest moves.

The reason being that Hiarcs is Black and i am operating it.

[DarienSar]

I will keep voting for d4 until we play it. Well... maybe not, but I will vote for it on this move.

2. d4

[kirk]

Nf3 sounds good

[turbojuice1122]

After 1.e4 c6?, I now vote for 2.d4 with the intention of 3.e5 after 2...d5. We are winning now.

Playing the queen's bishop pawn gives more in the way of chances for black and simplifies to many other openings, all of which have been heavily analyzed. We don't want to give the computer a chance to beat us by equalizing in the opening with moves like 2.Nf3 or 2.Nc3, which would be, as Terry would put it, "pussy-cat moves". We should use our winning advantage now while the computer is still stuck in book .